Playing Resident Evil Games using Breaker Pro

[habla2k]

Hi,

i tried using my old RE backups using breaker pro, but somehow i can't get them to work...at first it did work once or twice but since then...no more.
Neither RE1 DC nor RE2...anyone know how to solve this problem?

I use verbatim extra protection 700MB and alcohol black % bloody edition and the Playstation burn profile, which is raw/dao and slowest possible write speed, that means 8x

I have simply no idea why it doesnt work.

Who can help?

[snake2]

only thing I can think of is maybe you turned on the wrong games cheat codes like turn on original RE codes instead of RE DC codes

[habla2k]

Breaker Pro is no cheat cardridge, it's a Boot CD fpr PSX games on PS2

[DABhand]

He never mentioned anything about a catridge.

Could be your PS2's laser isnt reading right from the CD-r's. The darker the dye the better for PS2's.

If the backups are old by a few years then there is a possibility the disc has started to wear out, even CD-r's have shelf lives.

[habla2k]

No, i reburned them yesterday, too bad i dont have any other games i can try.

[chaosmountain]

Originally Posted by DABhand

He never mentioned anything about a catridge.

Well it was kind of inferred when he mentioned codes.

Anywho, all my RE games work fine with BreakerPro on my PS2, i had a problem with Dino Crisis but after using the fix patch on it, it worked fine on my PS2.

Also i burn my PSX games at 4X tops, usually 2X, just my preference as faster burning usually seem's to cause playback problems.

[habla2k]

Originally Posted by chaosmountain

Well it was kind of inferred when he mentioned codes.

Anywho, all my RE games work fine with BreakerPro on my PS2, i had a problem with Dino Crisis but after using the fix patch on it, it worked fine on my PS2.

Also i burn my PSX games at 4X tops, usually 2X, just my preference as faster burning usually seem's to cause playback problems.

I never mentioned codes though.

What Program do you use for burning? And what kind of CDRs?
Since all my Burning software can not burn slwoer than 8x Speed...
Or the CDR does not support slower i dont know.
And do you use NTSC? I am using Breaker Pro PAL.

[chaosmountain]

I know YOU never mentioned codes
snake2 mentioned codes, then YOU said it's not a cheatcart then DABhand said He never mentioned anything about a catridge..... are we catching up yet LOL!!!

I'm in NTSC land, which my location state's U.S.A.

I don't think that makes a diff. seeing as the BreakerPro disc has a setting to choose between PAL & NTSC, at least mine does.

Are the versions you are trying to play NTSC ?

Anywho, i use DVD Decrypter (to both burn and rip) Cdrwin, CloneCD, heck, i've even used nero to burn back images and never really had any problem backing up PS1 game.

I know CloneCD will allow you to burn at 1X, 2X, 4X, 6X, ect.
I saw someone here saying how that is a bad program for diff. reasons, but i've never had a problem with it....

And i just use standard Verbatim 80min 700mb cdr's.
And i use a slim PS2 & my son uses a fat ps2.

[habla2k]

Originally Posted by chaosmountain

I know YOU never mentioned codes
snake2 mentioned codes, then YOU said it's not a cheatcart then DABhand said He never mentioned anything about a catridge..... are we catching up yet LOL!!!

I'm in NTSC land, which my location state's U.S.A.

I don't think that makes a diff. seeing as the BreakerPro disc has a setting to choose between PAL & NTSC, at least mine does.

Are the versions you are trying to play NTSC ?

Anywho, i use DVD Decrypter (to both burn and rip) Cdrwin, CloneCD, heck, i've even used nero to burn back images and never really had any problem backing up PS1 game.

I know CloneCD will allow you to burn at 1X, 2X, 4X, 6X, ect.
I saw someone here saying how that is a bad program for diff. reasons, but i've never had a problem with it....

And i just use standard Verbatim 80min 700mb cdr's.
And i use a slim PS2 & my son uses a fat ps2.

Well, obviously it does make a difference cause i use a PAL console (fat) and PAL Breaker, and it doesnt work.
I tried alcohol, imgburn, nero always same result: after swapping in the disc (either NTSC or PAL i tried both) the disc starts to load, then it makes some noise like the laser is reseting in his sledge and the cd keeps spinning but no loading, it hangs at the "Booting CD..." screen.

And i can not burn lower than 8x casue my DVD Burner, doesnt support slower speed.
But i think if its just the Speed the CD would at least load, but run bad or sumthing.
I am using verbatim 700mb CDRs too so thats the same either.
Maybe NTSC Breaker just works better i have no clue, mine had many scratches when i got it tho, and i told my deliverer and they promised to send a new one, maybe i just have a bad Breaker Pro CD.
Another possibility is, that my laser is fucked up or dirty and just cant read them...but i have no difficulties playing my ps2 backups, which are DVDs tho.

Well, no idea, if you have any hints tell me, i think i will try the new breaker cd before opening my ps2 to clean the lense.

[chaosmountain]

Yeah a cd & dvd laser are diff. & if it's a fat PS2 you could have a dying laser, fat PS2 are pretty old.

I have cleaned my laser lens before but you must be very careful because you could scratch it and not see that you have.

Also, i meant were you trying to play PAL or NTSC games, because the Breaker Pro is able to be set for PAL or NTSC.

What does your Breaker Pro say on the disc label itself ?
Mine say's NTSC cersion 1.1

It's kind of strange they would make an NTSC & PAL version when it has a selection option when the disc is loaded between PAL & NTSC.....

I know when i try to play PAL games before applying a conversion patch they still play just off center and B&W just like a video would, so they should still play or load.

There are guides around on how to re adjust your laser, but you must be confident in doing things like this as you can ruin it for good.
And there are guides doing it with an ohm meter so you don't adjust it to far and burn it out totally.

Also, regardless of what burner you have, try the latest CloneCD and i bet it will let you burn at 2X & 4X.

[habla2k]

Originally Posted by chaosmountain

Yeah a cd & dvd laser are diff. & if it's a fat PS2 you could have a dying laser, fat PS2 are pretty old.

I have cleaned my laser lens before but you must be very careful because you could scratch it and not see that you have.

Also, i meant were you trying to play PAL or NTSC games, because the Breaker Pro is able to be set for PAL or NTSC.

What does your Breaker Pro say on the disc label itself ?
Mine say's NTSC cersion 1.1

It's kind of strange they would make an NTSC & PAL version when it has a selection option when the disc is loaded between PAL & NTSC.....

I know when i try to play PAL games before applying a conversion patch they still play just off center and B&W just like a video would, so they should still play or load.

There are guides around on how to re adjust your laser, but you must be confident in doing things like this as you can ruin it for good.
And there are guides doing it with an ohm meter so you don't adjust it to far and burn it out totally.

Also, regardless of what burner you have, try the latest CloneCD and i bet it will let you burn at 2X & 4X.

The NTSC & PAL selector, is just for the video signal, meaning you can play any game with any setting...its just for adjusting the screen correctly.
if you play PAL game you chose NTSC and it should correct the adjustment.
You can set it to "off" too that's why its only for video mode not for playing.

Yea i read about cleaning or adjusting the lense, tho i will only try to clean, cause i don't think i am able to re-adjust it myself.

I tried CloneCD and of course i can chose lower speed, but the real writing speed is still 8x minimum, cause its hardware capped, no software can cut that.

But, if the cd and dvd lasers are two different, then i have no idea why its getting rusty cause i barely used the CD one.

Anyway, i think its best to wait for the new, hopefully scratch free Breaker CD, and if it still does not work, i'll try to clean the lense.

[chaosmountain]

Originally Posted by habla2k

The NTSC & PAL selector, is just for the video signal, meaning you can play any game with any setting...its just for adjusting the screen correctly.

OH trust me, i know exactly how it works... LOL!!
That was not my point.

Originally Posted by habla2k

I tried CloneCD and of course i can chose lower speed, but the real writing speed is still 8x minimum, cause its hardware capped, no software can cut that.

And no, burning speed is NOT "hardware capped" it is software.

The same principle for when new dvdr media is released and dvd drives will not recognize it or will not burn it at a higher speed which the media is rated for, in that event you need to update the firmware or "hack" the firmware if there are no updates for your drive for that specific media, then reflash your burner/drive.

I know some programs will still burn at higher speed than what you chose, some don't even allow you to choose a lower speed than 8X ect, but nero & clonecd have always burned at what i have set them to on any drive i have ever used, and i have had many many many burners/drives over the years.

I know CdrWin will only allow me to go down to 4X.

My first burner/drive was a cd burner back when 1X cd burners were top of the line, LOL!!!! & have been making backups of PSX games since the first chip was sold so i'm not new

[habla2k]

Yea i read about that reimplementing slower speed with "new" firmware.
But actually i dont think burning them at 1x to 4x speed will make them work suddenly.
The reason my backups do not work lies somewhere else, not in burning technique, since i started with the first chips on ps1 too, and used nero back then i also know how to make them work...with a chip tho, so it's either that breaker pro CD or my PS2's laser.

Another strange thing is, when i started using breaker pro, it worked if i placed the CD in a specific way, like the CDs Label had to be lower left corner...really strange, but now that does not work either...

i read ps2 checks the outer ring of ps1 games and since my breaker pro has scratches especially on the outer ring (and refuses to load sometimes too) maybe the new disc will help.

[habla2k]

ok, got the new scratch free CD today, but they still refuse to load...
I have no idea why it's not working.

And now the real strange thing is, i tried booting my original NTSC Metal Gear Solid, and it did not work either...so i think it HAS to be the laser not reading ps1 discs at all. I mean if it can not even read original games?

Update: Cleaned the lense, no difference, still not loading them... the only thing that does work, oddly enough, is the backup of m xploder CD...but i did nothing different...just burned it like the others...can't help it, closely to throwing everything out of the window, paid like 20€ for that breaker pro shit and its not working.