Starforce Petition!

[Grumpy]

@asdfas

he tells me he dunno he was just dling

So I presume you are talking about games your friend has downloaded and not talking about the original discs? Do you have the original discs?

[asdfasf]

quake4 and cod2 ye...q4 org i need cuz i play online ...same story with CoD2...i dont like playing single player :F
i have read from post 1 to the last post about starforce and i dont want to buy I-NINJA ..i am scared it could ruin my system...and no1 so far explained that to me what it is... =o

[asdfasf]

Yes, I am boycotting Starforce games

[Jenas]

For what little bit it is worth, I am regularly complaining to Micros*** about why they are allowing Starforce protection to infest their operating systems and **** up peoples programs and apps.
I know it wont do any good but at least it makes me feel better.


Hurry up and die Starforce.............

[cptpooface]

I just read a bunch of pages on this topic but didn't finish all of them so I'm sorry if I repeat something that has already been said. It seems this topic is based on the legality of the protection. The companies could easily bypass this by adding a warning, I don't know who said it, but someone said Starforce should just have a pop-up that warns of its "side effects," along with this they should have to put something on the outside of the box, like system requirements they could state that your computer could not have certain programs, etc... By including all the information they could avoid any hassle. They would have to include all of the facts about Starforce. They would have to list every conceivable possibility, just like the pharmaceutical companies (this medication could cause heart explosion or brain aneuryism). The pharmaceutical companies have to do this because after many class action law suits they are legally liable. Until Starforce is beaten in court, and are forced to comply, they will never warn anyone of there program's shortcomings. Game companies also need to realize that if a game is good people will buy it. How many people bought GTA: San Andreas? And how many people could have pirated it? I'm not saying that a good game will never be pirated, but the majority of people who want it will buy it. If it's a quality product it will sell. In my opinion you are all justified in boycotting Starforce. Even if all they did was keep secret all the "extras" in their program, they should be liable. Unfortunately I don't think this petition will help much, like I said, if it's a popular game people will buy it. It seems you can't convince the masses.

[Avi H]

ARG! i hate SF, finally people have theior say about it!
i will NEVER BUY any SF games in my lafe, screw SF! hope the SF developers can read it and now know that they cause only harm to the games they protect! because now they are boycot death to SF!

[DABhand]

Would be interesting to know how many who signed the petition are warez users who couldnt figure out how to play their ill gotten gains :P


I bet its a high number lol

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Besides there's probably a high number of users who are tired of:
1.waiting minutes for a disc validation
2.booting and rebooting everytime they install a sf-protected game
3.loosing the complete control of their pc\os
4.having their hardware damaged by starforce virus (oooops, driver.)

Defeating piracy is not really a good excuse to not guarantee to legit users QUALITY and SAFETY anymore. A good protection shouldn't have hard&soft compatibility issues; if piracy "harms consumers as well as legitimate developers", Starforce harms "warez users as well as legitimate players".
And remember, even if in most cases to play backups it's needed to unplug ide drives, in some cases people who have original copies are obliged to buy new drives cause starforce broke theirs (The same thing happened to me with Still Life).
Go checking Ubisoft Official Forum: you'll read a lot of comments of people disappointed by the choice of SF3 for POP - The Two Trones: maybe they're all game downloaders, but does it really matter for an honest gamer who would like to play peacefully, already having to struggle with graphucz\control\etc. settings? I guess not, and that's why I'll go for the Xbox version of the game. But this is a compromise, not a solution.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Would be interesting to know how many who signed the petition are warez users who couldnt figure out how to play their ill gotten gains :P

I bet its a high number lol

As long as people don't discuss warez on this forum, noone has the right to - directly or indirectly - question the legality of their games. That's the reversal of forum rule #1 so, please, refrain from such comments.

[revolver]

I have boycotted starforce for years and will continue to do so as for wheather someone owns an orginal or warez. it anit anyones business but that person if they wanna uses warez gd luck to them

but i cant blame them when it comes to starforces

[Sirrus]

Someone talked about pirate games...

if the games were cheaper, it would force the pirate users to buy the original. Because a game is not only consist of a simple disc. it has manuals, support centers... some of them got maps, poster and so on. comparing these with a cd-r (with considering the cheap prices also), pirate user would think and buy the original. so game companies would sell the games to everyone. only change was pirates would **** themselves

[Joe Forster/STA]

Fact #1. Most people crack copy protections just for fun and pride, not to make money. (I do. ) Whatever paysite owners, Chinese fake CD/DVD manufacturers or everyday warez users do with cracks is another story...

Fact #2. Today, it is very difficult to publish (even finish!) a game without a publisher. Developing a game costs a lot of time and money, and the publisher loans to the developer during this time period. In change, the developer gets like 2-5% percent of the profit (yeah, you read that right; I read this on this forum and got confirmed by a friend of mine, too!), the rest goes to the publisher and the vendor. A few developers do get their stuff publisher in online downloadable form (Live for Speed; games released via Steam), though, to get rid of the money-hungry publishers and vendors...!

As for fact #2, if you look closely, this is the same with music, as well: it is music publishers that get irrationally rich, not the actual artists that make the music. It is not only game business but the whole economy that is majorly f*cked up, because of only a few greedy millionaires and billionaires...

(Do I sound apocalyptic in such posts of mine?! )

[dajunka]

This is fantastic. The starf**k boycott has really taken off. Every where I serf someones talking about boycotting SF, even on the SF forum itself. The publishers must be feeling the pinch by now, I know game developers are sick to the back teeth with it. Long live the death of StarForce.

[Sirrus]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

(Do I sound apocalyptic in such posts of mine?! )

i don't know, but i liked it

[revolver]

yep but it's gooooood

die starforce you f***ker may you rot in hell