Daemon Tools 4

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by hyakkii

U.S. Copyright laws allow you to make one backup copy of software you own. However, that backup copy is "tied" to your original. If you sell or give away your original software, you must destroy your backup copy or package it with the orignal when you sell or give it away. Likewise, you may not sell or give away your backup copy without the original.
Of course, with the advent of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), breaking the copyright protection on a piece of software you own has been made a crime in many cases, so if the software you are backing up implements copyright protection, it may also be illegal.

also the law US Code collection :P http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...7----000-.html

but again these are us laws im sure it varies greatly country to country

it says no where you need the software creators permission to make a archival backup it might differ if it was in the eula. but almost every game's eula would never hold up in court

It doesnt say that, it says you can make a backup if you have a contract to do so, just buying a game doesnt give you this contract, if stated in the EULA or in other print that the publisher allows you to backup the software then its fine, if they do not give you any permission you cannot.

[Joe Forster/STA]

@hyakkii: Don't bother, DABhand just doesn't grasp the fact that a country's own laws have higher priority than the EULA which is just a contract between two people/companies. [Edit: See http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=70244#post279673 ]

[crypto6600]

I don't know about us laws or any other laws to be honest :P but there is AN INTERVIEW with some geek female from Starforce team on the Firing Squad website , and they asked her alot about the damned hardware crap
and she said that in some earlier versions and some other versions there was some conflicts between thier protection driver and some USB devices , causing them to malfunction .

Another benchmark on some tomshardware forum ( i will get the link later ) shows that starforce games tend to be slower in terms of fps, cuz Someone there think that the starforce protection service is running while the game is running as well ,, taking some memory and cpu usage .

I am not sure of the later , but I am sure of the first one , my Nokia MMC card reader ( Nokia 6680 ) WAS NOT getting detected in windows , until I Uninstalled SF . and I am not a computer newbie or anything here just flamin the hell out of starforce, actualy it's a 2 Headed weapon , it's very hard to crack ( I guess so ) and it really makes legal users in PAIN .

but I am glad that EA / UBi / Valve and ID are not tending to use such technologies .. YET .

[dajunka]

Here's a wierd one. I installed Deamon tools 4 and got X3 to work great first time from a image without unplugging any drives or using any tools. But when I tried the same on my other computer, it dident work, yet both systems are practicly the same. What ever is stopping my other computer must be something simple, but what?

[prollfin]

I guess, and I read it somewhere on these forums: someone was asking if he had to remove Alcohol to make it work. The thread starter answered that he never had it installed but was going to try it with Alcohol installed. After he had Alcohol installed, it didn't work anymore. Even not after removing it again. So maybe you have or had Alcohol installed on the second machine?

[crypto6600]

good so i am not alone :P DT4 does work for me without unplugging !

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

@hyakkii: Don't bother, DABhand just doesn't grasp the fact that a country's own laws have higher priority than the EULA which is just a contract between two people/companies. [Edit: See http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=70244#post279673 ]

A country's own Law can not and never will overpower the owner/s instructions.


Lets not go back to your example way back, where in your language it said "contract" which you never did explain to me what your intepretation of the word contract was..


Again no countrys' law will overpower the right for people to protect their possessions and goods, software being amongst this fact.


If a country were to force this onto software publishers/developers, I can assure you they wouldnt want to release software into that country if they are basically allowing their software to be easily copied and distributed.

[TonyTek]

I got an SPTD (scsi pass through direct) layer error, and it wont let me continue my install, any ideas?

thanks,
-Tony

[leezer3]

Dabhand, this depends on the situation on which the game is in- While the EULA may state that the purchaser agrees to the juridisticion of a certain court, this is most emphatically not the case- To see this, simply have a look at the consumer rights bit at the back of any manual/ EULA- They acknowledge that these differ from country to country, and that they are protected to the maximum extent allowed by national law. Similarly, there have been several cases in the US involving firms who wished to use a juridisticion that was more favourable to them, which have gone against the firms involved.

-Leezer-

[dajunka]

Originally Posted by prollfin

I guess, and I read it somewhere on these forums: someone was asking if he had to remove Alcohol to make it work. The thread starter answered that he never had it installed but was going to try it with Alcohol installed. After he had Alcohol installed, it didn't work anymore. Even not after removing it again. So maybe you have or had Alcohol installed on the second machine?

That's it I bet. I had Alcohol 120 installed on my other computer, but not on this one. Now if I can only find the poxy Alcohol file or reg entry thats stopping X3 from playing. Someone somewhere must know. If that's all it is I bet you can play any SF game using DT4.

[leezer3]

Alcohol is installed on this machine, & X3 runs fine.

-Leezer-

[Machina]

OK, I have 2 questions.

1. Where is that adware/spyware thingy? I do not see it anywhere, and I am not getting any ads in my Daemon Tools. Spybot and Ad-aware are not detecting anything either.

2. How did you get X3 to work? I have the US 6 CD version. It works with the GAME CD just fine, but if I make an image with Alcohol 120% (with RMPS enabled, max precision) and try to use that image instead of the CD then CD detection FREEZES on me, and X3 never launches...
Is it because I install the game from the real drive and not virtual???

I know I properly uninstalled D-Tool 3.47 and everything is working fine.

[Machina]

Originally Posted by DABhand

A country's own Law can not and never will overpower the owner/s instructions.


Lets not go back to your example way back, where in your language it said "contract" which you never did explain to me what your intepretation of the word contract was..


Again no countrys' law will overpower the right for people to protect their possessions and goods, software being amongst this fact.


If a country were to force this onto software publishers/developers, I can assure you they wouldnt want to release software into that country if they are basically allowing their software to be easily copied and distributed.

You are correct. However, the contract may be void if its against the law. Lets say you sign a legal contract that your left nut is to be cut off if Yankees win next year, and they do. It would still be ILLEGAL for them to cut off your left nut!

[crypto6600]

at Machina

1. the release i've got " http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=73548&page=2 " does NOT I confirm , DOES NOT have any spyware/adware not even OPTIONAL , I don't know about the one posted on the gamecopyworld , altho The author is saying that it has optional adware .

2. I have the UK DVD version , But my problem was that I ordered the DVD version while i DONT EVEN OWN a DVD drive , so I gave it to a friend who has one on his labtop and he made me a CLONECD image ( arround 4gb ) I took that on my hd and installed using the old daemon tools 3 , then of course It wouldn't launch , I didn't try any sfcure / nightmare stuff .. I just tried unplugging my CDRs and it didn't work

Until I got DT4 (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=73548&page=2) and installed , ran the game ,, it went fine like the screenshots I provided .
then I even replugged both of my CDs , and it still plays fine with DT4 .

[Machina]

Originally Posted by crypto6600

at Machina

1. the release i've got " http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=73548&page=2 " does NOT I confirm , DOES NOT have any spyware/adware not even OPTIONAL , I don't know about the one posted on the gamecopyworld , altho The author is saying that it has optional adware .

2. I have the UK DVD version , But my problem was that I ordered the DVD version while i DONT EVEN OWN a DVD drive , so I gave it to a friend who has one on his labtop and he made me a CLONECD image ( arround 4gb ) I took that on my hd and installed using the old daemon tools 3 , then of course It wouldn't launch , I didn't try any sfcure / nightmare stuff .. I just tried unplugging my CDRs and it didn't work

Until I got DT4 (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=73548&page=2) and installed , ran the game ,, it went fine like the screenshots I provided .
then I even replugged both of my CDs , and it still plays fine with DT4 .

Does not work when I use SF Nightmare to disable IDE nodes and completely hide the drives. I checked MY COMPUTER and my real optical drive was not there, just the Daemon Tools drive.
The game would still not launch. I tried all emulations, and none. I tried installing from the virtual image - no go.

I tried on a different computer (friend's) and its the same issue...I guess the CD version has newer StarForce and D-Tools 4 does not emulate it properly at all...

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory works though.