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Old 19-05-2005, 01:18
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lol ppl
99% here cant emulate the SF and there is no crack to it, so they became angry
relax, okay games you like, forget about drivers - it didnt do any "backdoor" work
http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91
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Old 19-05-2005, 02:15
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Unfortunately that link has no date on the page! I have read that before and it could refer to any version of Starforce? I assure you the later versions of Starforce is a whole new ball game!
Of course Starforce are not going to tell you openly about the hidden fuctions of thier protection!
A Quote from the first paragraph from that site:
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Those drivers are necessary for the StarForce specific CD/DVD checking procedure, only. They do not include any hidden functionality. The drivers are active only at execution of the protected application.
If they do not include any hidden functionality and are only active at the execution of the application then why is it then you can now no longer read the dpm info from your other CD's!! So by installing the latest Starforce Protection you will be prevented from performing a function you were able to do before. In my opinion, and I am sure many will agree, that itself is a hidden function! Nowhere do Starforce mention this!
Look many can argue we are only picking up a fuss because we cant rip of games anymore! I am self employed and earn very good dollars, I dont need to steal games! But I do like to be able to walk into a shop and purchase a game which will not cause havoc to my system!
What we are trying to do here is make people aware that all is not what it seems in the Protection industry!
Nerva, you say there is no backdoor function, well clearly none that you know of!
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Old 19-05-2005, 08:16
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StarForce 3: Boykott

StarForce 3 really sucks hard!
The only StarForce 3 protected game I have is "Splinter Cell 3 - Chaos Theory". It came together with my new Graphics card (Leadtek Winfast A6600 GT TDH).
But I will never buy such a game. This protection is very customer-unfriendly!

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Old 19-05-2005, 19:41
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Thanx for the list of games protected by SF. Will ensure that I don't download those. Pls. don't mistake me for writing this. I download games and not buy them 'cos, here in India they cost around 1500 bucks. No way someone's gonna pay that and also get their PC INFECTED with SF. So no more SF game downloads. Cheers for starting this topic.
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Old 19-05-2005, 20:33
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@ Whacko
May I suggest you go and read the forum rules! This site is not to help you choose which games to 'download'!
People like yourself are the reason these type of intrusive protections are released!! Games are expensive in every country, what makes you think it is ok to download games just because you cant afford them!
I cant afford a Rolls Royce car but it doesnt mean I can just steal one! Developers etc work very hard to release games, so you will have to work just as hard to be able to purchase them! You obviously can afford a broadband connection therefore you can afford to buy games!
Enjoy your upcoming ban from this site!
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Old 19-05-2005, 20:41
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I don't know! Seeing how much the game industry still makes, even with Piracy, I think the reason we see such protections is more because they can get away with it than anything else. Isn't it grand how the government has no problem helping big business screw over legitimate consumers, but won't do squat to help with our rights when it comes to software?

The whole thing is BS in my opinion. I will practically buy any game I want, but (Except for Kill.Switch and XIII) I will never buy another game with either StarForce or Tages. Funny how both were cracked eventually anyway...

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Old 20-05-2005, 08:03
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I think it goes without saying that I’m for the boycott.
I got to say there's a lot of cool arguments mostly against SF coming from forum members, stuff that I've never really given much thought to before.

One plus to this campaign is that SF is getting discussed more and more on game forums, mostly shouting for it's demise. The minus is that more and more game forums are closing or deleting threads that attempt to discuss SF, shoot, what is there to hide.

Read for more info on the Starforce virus.
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000477025364/

Come on my dear mods nominate this thread to the big man for a sticky badge.

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Old 20-05-2005, 12:23
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I am not surprised, many forums don't have the balls to stand up and talk about this stuff. Too afraid of getting closed down...
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Old 20-05-2005, 17:22
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Just to make one thing sure: I DO BUY all of my games......And yes, almost every protection has to install "drivers" to function properly. SF really made my system to become unstable......and before any "wise man" comes and says something like "Hey, if sf makes your system unstable, you probably have a problem with your configuration", I have to admit that I am a sysop at a rather large company, and I know how to setup a system.

BTW, I have several systems at home, some of them are pure (fast and reliable) scsi systems. I am afraid I am a SCSI fan......but sf3 developers surely don't like me....

The reason why I don't like sf is NOT tht it is very hard to crack....it is more that sf games totally refuse to run on some of my systems cos I DARE to have hardware equipment, which sf does not like. Even if it thinks that I deserve having a look at the game, sf sometimes screws up my system.....

That's my bottom line.....
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Old 21-05-2005, 22:15
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I had no problem with Starforce when I bought Kill.Switch, that said, I just don't like the idea of us getting screwed over with protections, that do nothing but inconvenience legit consumers of the software. Tages is the only one that gave me problems and am glad Ubisoft decided to stick with other types since putting it on XIII...
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The reason why I don't like sf is NOT tht it is very hard to crack....it is more that sf games totally refuse to run on some of my systems cos I DARE to have hardware equipment, which sf does not like. Even if it thinks that I deserve having a look at the game, sf sometimes screws up my system.....

That's my bottom line.....
Not to mention they decide what software you may have installed on your computer. Does the box state you cant have daemon tools as part of its specs? Dont be surprised if they also start blacklisting websites. "You have visited www.fileforums.com, sorry you can no longer play the game."
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Old 22-05-2005, 10:24
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Not to mention they decide what software you may have installed on your computer. Does the box state you cant have daemon tools as part of its specs? Dont be surprised if they also start blacklisting websites. "You have visited www.fileforums.com, sorry you can no longer play the game."
Naaaaarrrrrr! they wouldent do that................................would they????
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Old 22-05-2005, 11:00
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Well, I can see class action law suits happening if they continue to push such boundaries. Again the government isn't doing anything, but we already pay taxes on recordable media and burners to pay them for the privilege of making backups. That doesn't stop them from taking our rights away still. Sound unlawful to me... :slant:

There's looks to be a "media/technology" war coming up methinks...
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Old 22-05-2005, 12:05
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StarForce breaks one of the basic laws which is the right to backup applications (even dictionaries!) and games which I had purchased LEGALLY. BOYCOT STARFORCE!
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I do not have to add something, just wanna push a little (Grumpy! that would have been your job ).
I am interested in other opinions.
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