Interesting news from MS - Page 2

TylerDurden · #16 28-10-2003, 05:33

Yeah both games will fit on one dual layered disc. Especially since thats what Xbox mainly uses. All Grand Theft Autos are mainly music. The rest will fit in about 700mb.

Im not saying they wont put it on a dual sided disc, just saying they can fit them on a dual layered.

Tyler!

JiveTurkey · #17 28-10-2003, 20:55

I think Japan is key too. It's more important to sell in Japan than US even.

This round Sony had a big lead just because it was backward compatible with the PS1 games, but next round both can have a large library of older games to add.

MrCaine01 · #18 28-10-2003, 21:52

They';re going to make it two discs. I can tell cuz we got the PS2 double pack and the xbox is having lauuched the exact same way. So in other words it'll be just like all the other back-ups, simple!

and Jiveturkey is right. If xbox 2 is backwards compatible it'll increase the libary. But Sony annouced that Ps3 and every Sony system from here on in will be compatible with all the sony playstation games.

Quall999 · #19 29-10-2003, 06:49

Man, video games of the future will rock. If they are backwords compatable, the libraries will be large no matter which console you get mwahahaha.

What im wonder is how cheap the ps1 will get after the ps3 release. You think Sony will discontinue the line and make a PStwo?

TylerDurden · #20 29-10-2003, 08:56

Yeah I bet psone will be discontinued. But since the games are still there thatll be cool. Ps2 will probably drop hella cheap. I hear that this comming November there may be a PS2 drop in price. Its just a rumor though but this guy works at EB so who knows.

And if PS2 drops you know Xbox will follow.

Tyler!

Warlock · #21 31-10-2003, 14:58

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JiveTurkey
[B]I think Japan is key too. It's more important to sell in Japan than US even.Its not gonna happen. Japan tends to shy away from ANY American made products. Japan believes in Exports, not Imports. I dont think the Xbox will ever get a fair chance in japan. Most game developers are in Japan, and are not going to support a console that could hurt their market.Any HONEST gameplayer that has played both consoles knows the xbox out preforms the PS2. More power, better graphics, gameplay and a HD. If you disagree then thats your opinion but I cant name one game thats been released for both consoles that the xbox version didnt beat the PS2......This is just my opinion and i am not trying to start a flaming war or offend any of my Japaneese fellow members.

JiveTurkey · #22 31-10-2003, 15:08

That may be true but you are forgetting one of the major factors in marketing - the best product doesn't always win. The most popular product does.

The problem with Japan is that there is a much larger audience and wider age range of potential customers that cant be ignored.

The other major problem is that most game development happens in Japan not America. MS promised they would buy rights to all the best PC games and have a huge library (hmm Phantom anyone?) which they havent. They havent been very successful making their own games or buying rights to that many killer games either.

Warlock · #23 31-10-2003, 15:29

Yep, I agree.

AXmichigan · #24 31-10-2003, 20:11

wooooooah
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MrCaine01 · #25 31-10-2003, 20:33

The story of Sony is this: From here on in they will always support two systems. So when ps3 comes out then they'll dicontinue ps1 and when ps4 comes out then down comes ps2.

As for better systems, specs wise, yes the xbox is the powerhouse but I dunno if I can agree about every game beating the ps2 hands down. I played Max Payne back to back for both systems and barely noticed any real difference except maybe a muted texture or two on the Ps2, which in the end who cares? Somethign a lot of people forget is that it's GAMEPLAY that makes games, not graphics. For example DOA 3 might look better than Soul Calibur II but I find the gameplay for Soul Cal 2 WAY more fun and engaging than DOA 3 which I feel is actually boring. Devil May Cry may not compare to the graphics of Otagi but I find DMC much more fun and exciting. For me it's all about the game play.

I do feel Microsoft let a lot of people down with the big green box. They promised more than they're giving, something I hear a lot of uber xbox fanatics (something this board lacks fortunately, leading to a lot of INTELLIGENT conversions and discussions) say was the problem of the Ps2, Sony promised more. Well so did MS. I'm not taking away anything from what MS has accomplished, a solid place as number 2 in the American Household, a feat by no means a small task, but I feel they really need to concentrate on what makes a great game, and THEN add amazing graphics...ya know, like they did with Halo. They promised severe quality control and I feel that they let people down, and another thing that MS has doen to start irking me is that EVERY game title I buy now comes with 2 months free of XBL. It's literally whoring itself out to people. If you want it you know about it and you get it, don't include 5 flyers telling me about the great-ness of online gaming. Most people know about XBL already so advertise on the games, inform the retailers about new stuff, don;t clutter up my box and make my manual for the game a three page booklet on what to do then put another 20 pages about how live works.

And on a quick side note I also don't like Rainbow 6 3 for one reason. Everytime the game loads up it tries to make a XBL account, how friggin annoying.

Quall999 · #26 01-11-2003, 04:48

i remember when the xbox was going to come out. I said "no way ms is gonna do good in the market, i mean sony and nintendo pretty much have it on lockdown." Well, Out came the nintendo and I found myself buying an xbox. Oh man, was i ever wrong. I would have regretted buying a gamecube so much. btw, i had a ps3 then too.

yay, gta3 is coming out soon. The place I work at got a shipment of the PS2 double pack. Unfortunately it wont be selling until tuesday. DAMN THE AMERICAN TUESDAY LAW. Or is it pretty similar around the world?

TylerDurden · #27 01-11-2003, 08:08

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Originally posted by Quall999
DAMN THE AMERICAN TUESDAY LAW

LMAO!

Tyler!

devilsminion · #28 05-11-2003, 10:57

Sony is in serious financial trouble and is doing some major financial restructuring. So that means that they will have to count for each dollar and investments that have a long turn around may be avoided. What this means in that this is trully MS "window" of opportunity Sony cannot compete if they did a major drop in price on the X Box or X Box next. MS has some serious major coin and could easily lose money again to make sure they are the next console of choice.

I think though what will matter the most is who has the best console and I believe that the XBOX has proven itself as a reliable console, the PS2 has had several problems with the cd tray, with dre's. XBox has an advantage of being the advanced console, PS2 being out the longest and Nintendo as the cheapest. I think though the next round will be different and each console will lean on its record.

TylerDurden · #29 05-11-2003, 11:28

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Originally posted by devilsminion
Sony is in serious financial trouble and is doing some major financial restructuring.

Care to elaborate?

Tyler!

devilsminion · #30 05-11-2003, 12:00

http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1771

Shows the woes of Sony there not gonna fold but need to do some MAJOR restructuring