Interesting news from MS
 

I was reading an article where MS stated the revenue from there XBox division has increased 23% or something to that fact, and was reading where Sony has dropped 93%

Does anyone think that MS can realistically become the number 1 console this time around ?? Pretty interesting development regardless. I believe we will see three console producers and they will all stay around. I can't see any of them drop out as they are doing well. Maby the experts were wrong maby there is room for three.


And lastly whats with this Phantom console anyone hear about this console from what I read some pretty interesting ideas if it works.

Nah Sony will always be on top. Because of all the games.

I still think the X is a cool console though.




Tyler!

Sony sales dropped a liitle less than 1/3. Xbox sales increased 25% rouphly. Put the 2 together and the reason sony's sales dropped was because of the xbox.

And to think the xbox will even sell half as much as sony's ps2 (worldly) is very unrealistic. But, it just shows that the xbox isn't as crappy as people think. besides, Xbix Live contributes to the sales greatly.

Phantom Console = crap.

It's is a PC game machine. I mean it plays PC games. If you already have a PC, then you don't need to buy that phantom crap. Yes, crap. You pay a subscription fee to play the thing at all. You download games onto the console instead of going out and just buying them. But, they are pc games, so if you want to go out and buy em, you still can. You can look at the details on what it does at their site. But it is no way in hell gonna compete with these consoles. It says it has 1000 games for it already. Well... Have yo uever seen those hand held games that have like 100 games on it (old ones), but costs like 15 dollars. Im thinking there is a similarity between them. Btw, the phantam is really poo.

in my opinion xbox rocks, the controller, the speed, the graphics and the flexibility

but ps2 will always win caz of the great games

I would say thats about 50% of it. The other 50% is due to its vast quantity of games over the XBox and the GameCube. I think the XBox has way more going for it over the PS2 and the GameCube.

I use to have a lot of games for my PS2. I’ve sold all but two. GTA3 and GTA VC. And when those get ported to the XBox my PS2 and I are going our separate ways. I’ve never really liked the Play Station from the start. And I only got a PS2 to play games I couldn’t get on my PC.

As oddly as it sounds Xbox really isn't gonna topple Sony now or in the next gen console time span either.the big M$ isn't gonna topple Sony for years to come even if. Why? Simple...Sony has about three things that are gonna keep it on top for now.

1) First is the sheer amount of games that are made for everybody. Games like Jak and Dexter and Ratchet and Clank are the kind of platformers that appeal to ALL ages from 20 somethings to kids. That is a huge advantage. It makes the system appealt to people of all ages and with it's backward compatiblity makes the volume of great games huge. Same will go for the Ps3 which will be compatible with both PS1 and PS2 games, making Ps3 have one of the largest general media liberies of games ever.

2)Second, a lot more video game companies (mainly japanese development houses mind you but still) seem to put more faith behind the Sony name then the MS one. Example: Capcom gave Dino Crisis III (which was crap) to Xbox while Devil may Cry became a Ps2 Exclusive and a commerical success. Another example was Kamoni's Silent Hill 3. It started off as an xbox exclusive then was given to the PS2 without so much as a second thought. Also with Silent Hill 2. Yes it came to the xbox with extra content quite a while after the Ps2 version was out but when SH2 went greatest hits on PS2 it was re-released with ALL THE EXTRA CONTENT, completely negating all the benifits. Even GTA coming to the Xbox is nothing more than Sony controlling things. They let Rockstar break their agreement for a GTA exclusive til 2004 on PS2 due to the simple fact that they've already made a HUGE amount of money for Sony and that the revenue has capped due to the slowing of sales of both GTA titles. They are even rumors already spreading that since Sony allowed Rockstar to release GTA 3 and GTA: VC on xbox before 2004 that Rockstar has already made a new agreement to have GTA 4 a Sony exclusive for at least a year before any kind of port (besides pc).

3) The reputation and mentality of M$ in the Asain Market. As long as M$ has seriously sub-standard console sales in Japan and other Asian Markets it's a whole market that is run by Sony. If Ps3 is number 2 here but number one in europe and Asia it still has conquered the Xbox in two thirds of the market. What makes things worse for the big green box? Their mentality dealing with the Asian Market. They keep saying "all we have to do is keep pumping money into the system in Japan and it'll succeed someday." which is not the kind of mentality they need. They need to come up with a battle plan that will include a global strategy, and not just a simple american market one. M$ also needs to seriously stop bullying around a lot of the Asain companies themselves. An example of this is when Square was in trouble of going under. M$ came in and just said they were going to buy them out while Sony offered enough Money to just get them back on their feet. Now Sony has Square Enix and all their RPGs in their corner and the comany has no desire to even work with M$ on any project. (now I know some people hate Square and don't think much of them as a company but whether you like it or not FFX, Kingdom Hearts, FFX-2, FFXI all are commerical sucesses which means money and market share.)

Anyway Microsoft has a very big uphill battle. Yes they have a 25 percent increase but look at it like this...if everybody has a Ps2 already what else is there? The number 2 system...the Xbox.

I also don't want anybody to think I'm dissing the 'box in anyway but these are what M$ has to face if they want to beat Sony.

Sony doesn't control that. They didn't let them break the agreement, that's when the contract ends. GTA is one of the biggest selling games for PS2. If Rockstar wanted to, Sony would make the same agreement in a heart beat, I'd call them stupid if they didn't. If GTA was put to both systems, they [rockstar] would make more money. That is why Rockstar chooses to put it on the xbox. Surely if it was just because revenue has crapped, Sony would still keep that contract for future releases.

4) Think of playstation3 like Lord of the Rings. Even if it sucked, it would still sell well just because it's lotr. Although, lotr didn't suck, nor will the ps3 probably. But that is an example.

btw, as soon as gta3 on xbox comes out, ps2 vc is gone too mwahaha. But im still keeping my ps2.

Let Sony have Japan. I think they should care less about Japan and work on the rest of the world where the XBox is selling great. Japan will come around sooner or later. They will come to their senses and finely realize the Americans developed a better console then they did.

Oh ya, we still make better cars too. :D

Yes the agreement between Rockstar and Sony ends in 2004 but GTA will be out for xbox in 2003. In order for that to happen both compaines have to sit down and discuss a new agreement, that's how Sony has its finger in the pie.

As for the Japanese Market, it's foolish to neglect them. They are more adamant gamers than most give them credit for and it's a huge wealth of market to who ever can get them. The reason M$ does so poorly is how they just try to go in and take over businesses over there like they did here. It's a poor strategy dealing with people that pride themselves on thier businesses and work ethic.

Well maybe so. But you know if Microsoft gives them the finger and walks away there will be no more XBox in Japan being sold. And I know full well, people want, what they can't have. That would create a demand for the XBox in Japan and then Microsoft maybe able to sell more XBoxes... Just one mans point of view.

the xbox rules
the profits probably became higher because people realized the beauty of modding

Better graphics, better games, faster CPU & GPU, more options, ect ect.

but none of that improved since first released..

I see what you mean. I was under the impression that gta3 was coming out after the contract ended, which sony would not control. Looked at the release dates and it is set to november 4 2003, not 2004. So i guess sony DID have a say in it. Im just glad that the xbox will have gta3 and vice city double pack, instead of 2 games. Rockstar would be nothing without Take2 Games, mwahahaha.

You think they can pack both games on one disk? Or do you think they will use a double sided DVD? I can see this is going to be a bitch to make a back up all ready…