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Old 15-08-2011, 05:54
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Fallout - New Vegas (1x DVD5) *INNO+Precomp+Srep+FreeArc*

Fallout - New Vegas (1x DVD5) *INNO+Precomp+Srep+FreeArc*

1) Extract 'FNV_1xDVD5.7z' contents

2) Move from Game's installation folder :

Code:
all files (except folders) in the root to 'FNV_DVD5\Binaries' folder
3) Re-encode the bik video to a ~ 45-50% bitrate of original one and then move it to 'FNV_DVD5\Video' folder

4) Re-encode all mp3 files in 'Music' & 'Sound' folders to a ~ 60 kbps bitrate and then move both folders to 'FNV_DVD5' folder
(you must keep the original sub folders structure)

5) Launch FreeArc and then 'compress' the following files in the Game's installation folder:

Code:
Fallout - Meshes.bsa file
Fallout - Misc.bsa file
Fallout - Textures.bsa file
Fallout - Textures2.bsa file
Code:
Output archive: FNV
Compression: -m0 -dm0
Make exe: Not checked
Pre-compress 'FNV.arc' file:

Code:
e.g. precomp038 -slow -c6 -m8 -oFNV FNV.arc
Compress 'FNV.pcf' file :

Code:
e.g. srep -m2 FNV.pcf FNV.srep
Compress 'FNV.srep' file:

Code:
Output archive: FNV_1
Compression: -mx -ld800mb
Make exe: Not checked
6) and then compress the following folders/files in the Game's installation:

Code:
Shaders folder
FalloutNV.esm file
Fallout - Voices1.bsa file
Fallout - Sound.bsa file
Credits.txt file
CreditsWacky.txt file
Data.sfv file
Code:
Output archive: FNV_2
Compression: -mx -ld800mb
Make exe: Not checked
7) Move 'FNV_1.arc' & 'FNV_2.arc' to 'FNV_DVD5' folder

8) Burn or make iso with label name of your choice

A_FNV.jpg

WP_FNV.jpg

I1_FNV.jpg

I2_FNV.jpg
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File Type: 7z FNV_1xDVD5.7z (14.00 MB, 931 views)
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Old 16-08-2011, 19:40
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more info would be nice ..

steps 3,4,5 what sizes did you achieve for each step ?
( so that users can see if what they've achieved is close to your actual numbers )

Much like your RFA Conversion.. we have NOTHING to compare what we have achieved
against what you've done. ( I've tried 3x, different ways of re-encoding biks, but have as yet
to be able to have the biks + game folder archive FIT on DVD5. ---> 4.67GB is smallest size yet,
game folder without the biks is ~3.8GB )

hopefully peter reads this AND posts additional info for this conversion & RFA !!! hint-hint

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Old 16-08-2011, 22:05
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Surely it's nice we can re-compress the games in a single DVD, despite we need to
- Uncompress the ARC SFX file
- Then "Un-Srep"
- Then "Un-PreComp"
- And finally Uncompress a uncompressed ARC SFX file
to install the game.

However, there are some people (like me) that don't want to do all that mess (3x Recompressing, .BIK re-encoding) just to fit the game in a single DVD, yet they'd like to have such nice installer for 2xDVD5 backups, like your "Black ops" custom installer.

Considering it uses files named "FNV_1.arc" and "FNV_2.arc", just like we have "CODBO_1.arc" and "CODBO_2.arc" for Cod-BO custom installer, can we use this custom installer for a 2xDVD5 backup?

** EDIT 1: Plus, for this conversion, it's just the normal game (Updates at most, but no DLCs), or there's any DLC included in it?

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Old 17-08-2011, 05:50
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more info would be nice ..

Steps 3,4,5 what sizes did you achieve for each step ?
( so that users can see if what they've achieved is close to your actual numbers )
About Fallout New Vegas:

FNV_fs.jpg

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much like your rfa conversion.. We have nothing to compare what we have achieved
against what you've done. ( i've tried 3x, different ways of re-encoding biks, but have as yet
to be able to have the biks + game folder archive fit on dvd5. ---> 4.67gb is smallest size yet,
game folder without the biks is ~3.8gb )

hopefully peter reads this and posts additional info for this conversion & rfa !!! Hint-hint
game folder without the biks is ~3.8gb

Maybe you have a multi version, delete the foreign languages!

About RFA...
the source videos folder size is 2.67.gb, only with videos resampled at ~45-50% of original ones it will fit on dvd5:
e.g.
Code:
others game files (RFA.arc included)= 3.05 gb
Videos=2.67*0.45=~ 1.20gb
DVD5 final size=3.05 gb+ 1.20 gb= 4.25 gb (with videos resampled at 45%)

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Old 17-08-2011, 13:35
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@peterf1999 I think the same KillerOh thinks. Why don't make 1 DVD with freearced game data and another one with freearced biks? I know, that you're trying hard to get best ratio original:converted but this goes mad ;P
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Old 17-08-2011, 19:18
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peter must be banging his head against a wall right now in frustration

When peter releases a DVD9 to '2xDVD5' conversion, its not long before people start asking for '1xDVD5'.
And when he releases a 1xDVD5 the people want a 2xDVD5 version.

Poor bloke cant win

Nice work again to Peter.
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Old 17-08-2011, 21:06
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EDIT - But this is important! =X

Peterf1999, I've downloaded and run your custom installer (without doing a single step of the conversion itself). That's how the menu looked here in my PC:
fnw_bug_01.jpg
fnw_bug_02.jpg

This happened because I've changed the "text and elements size" in "Video resolution" advanced options (In Windows Seven SP1 x64 Ultimate) to 125% of original size. When restored to "Normal" 100% size, everything becomes normal with your installer again.

Of course, as I've used your custom installer without doing the conversion, I've reached the "setup error" screen. However, in this screen, the "close" button in the top of windows (Yeah, the X button) DOES NOT WORK. But only in this window, as I could test.
fnw_bug_03.jpg

And yes, this screen was taken with "Text and elements size" set to 125% of original size. That's why there's no "About" and "Finish" buttons in the screen. They reappear after maximizing the window.
There's no "button disappearance" nor "Exit button not working" in any another installer pages, only in this one. Not that it'll happen if one follows the conversion steps...

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peter must be banging his head against a wall right now in frustration

When peter releases a DVD9 to '2xDVD5' conversion, its not long before people start asking for '1xDVD5'.
And when he releases a 1xDVD5 the people want a 2xDVD5 version.

Poor bloke cant win

Nice work again to Peter.
Unfortunately, Grumpy is damn right! XD
Maybe because his recent 1xDVD5 conversions requires too much work. This one is a very nice example:
- Resampling BIKs (Which takes a HELL of time)
- Resampling audio files
- Create an uncompressed FreeArc file (1st .ARC)
- Then "PreComp"
- then "SRep"
- Then a true compression with FreeArc
- Then pray that everything is working, otherwise... T-T

However, I asked about a 2xDVD5 conversion for this one because it uses TWO .ARC files, like the CoD Black OPS conversion he did:
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Considering it uses files named "FNV_1.arc" and "FNV_2.arc", just like we have "CODBO_1.arc" and "CODBO_2.arc" for Cod-BO custom installer, can we use this custom installer for a 2xDVD5 backup?
Considering Peterf1999's newest custom installers, it should be no surprise if it works for 2xDVD5 conversion (and skipping file re-encoding, PreComp and Srep steps) too.

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Old 17-08-2011, 22:39
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Sorry KillerOh, i wasn't having a go at you, i was just stating how peter must be feeling.
I do know its hard to please everyone, and I can also understand people like variations and choices, they also like things to be easy and fast to do.

My comment was just a general comment, not directed at you though.
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Old 17-08-2011, 23:33
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Sorry KillerOh, i wasn't having a go at you, i was just stating how peter must be feeling.
I do know its hard to please everyone, and I can also understand people like variations and choices, they also like things to be easy and fast to do.

My comment was just a general comment, not directed at you though.
No need to sorry, grumpy. I know it was a general comment. And indeed, the fact that we (Me and lots of people that asks for 1xDVD5 for Peter's 2xDVD5 conversions and vice-versa) are "Not always" happy with peterf1999's works is, unfortunately, damn right. >.<



To talk the truth, after someone who I know have tested a 1xDVD5 backup of MoH 2010 (From Peterf1999 too, and it uses FreeArc + PreComp) said that the install time was very long, I've dedided to stick myself for 2xDVD5 backups for every time I read "PreComp" in peter's conversions. Yeah, I'm lazy as hell.

Also, as I quoted twice, this conversion uses two .ARC files, whose names ressemble the ones in CoD Black Ops custom installer.
So it **could** be possible to use this installer for a full (non-reencoding and non-'compression-from-hell') backup for 2xDVD5. That's what I asked to peter.

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peter must be banging his head against a wall right now in frustration

When peter releases a DVD9 to '2xDVD5' conversion, its not long before people start asking for '1xDVD5'.
And when he releases a 1xDVD5 the people want a 2xDVD5 version.
Bud, it's true... my head is broken!

However here it is
Code:
Fallout - Meshes.bsa file
Fallout - Misc.bsa file
Fallout - Textures.bsa file
Fallout - Textures2.bsa file

Output archive: FNV_1
Compression: -mx -ld192mb or -m0 (no compression)
Make exe: Not checked
Code:
Shaders folder
FalloutNV.esm file
Fallout - Voices1.bsa file
Fallout - Sound.bsa file
Credits.txt file
CreditsWacky.txt file
Data.sfv file

Output archive: FNV_2
Compression: -mx -ld192mb or -m0 (no compression)
Make exe: Not checked
Dudes the next time get the conversions as they are, this is not my work
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@peterf1999 don't cry bro. There are always a few children who want more and more candies Great work, as always. Thanks.

PS: if you have enough time maybe you can do this with Hunted conversion?
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peter must be banging his head against a wall right now in frustration

When peter releases a DVD9 to '2xDVD5' conversion, its not long before people start asking for '1xDVD5'.
And when he releases a 1xDVD5 the people want a 2xDVD5 version.

Poor bloke cant win

Nice work again to Peter.
I think the biggest reason is that with peter's newer conversions, its resampling biks & that takes an enormous amount of time. Ive tried one at least 3-4 times but still cannot get it quite small enough. "May" redo it using a different 2xdvd5 conversion... or just burn it to dvd9.. tired of messing with it.

I can understand why peter would get frustrated, in almost every conversion he's written someone always asks for the opposite of whats posted. I think to myself if you dont like they way its posted then burn it to dvd9.....
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Lightbulb Idea! Idea!

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I can understand why peter would get frustrated, in almost every conversion he's written someone always asks for the opposite of whats posted. I think to myself if you dont like they way its posted then burn it to dvd9.....
What... and use the "official" UGLY installer!? NO WAY!

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Dudes the next time get the conversions as they are, this is not my work
I don't believe you'll accept this suggestion, but if this is the "big" problem, why you don't send the "codes" instead of the pre-compiled installer next time, like you did with The Whitcher 2, huh?

No, seriously. By the ammount of times I've compiled your custom installers, I've learned how to compile in InnoSetup itself.
And by doing this, we can "tweak" (Or, at very least, TRY to tweak) the installer to fit our needs. Already did it once for your F1 2010 custom installer, and these are my results:
  • Your Conversion:
    • Allows only one language (From the 5 avaliable in installer and the 7-8 from the lang files)
    • Requires re-compression of the game folder almost entirely with FreeArc
    • ... But surely unpacks faster
  • My "tweaked" one (Using the main script and a "tweaked" ENG lang script):
    • Allows 5 languages (English, Italian, German, French, Spanish), but only one installed (Ex: Select "Spanish" as installer language; Only "Spanish" lang will be installed). There are 2 or 3 more (Russian, Polish and Japanese), but I've skipped these because... They don't even show in the installer!
    • Contains "movies" and "language" folders as external in Inno, so much less files to compress
    • ... But I've used the Inno compression...
For much of my surprise, the full game (With 5 languages) + Update 1.01 + Razor NoCD (Yes, the update won't replace the cracked files) + a "tweaked" Dx9 installer I got with DirectX File collector and AddOn builder (No worries, this is safe, nice and legal) and all the DVD's "redist" files (Including that huge@$$ G4WL installer) fits in a single DVD5... with 30mbytes free!
Consider that my InnoSetup knowledge isn't that big, and even yet it's not that hard to know what requires changing - Even for building a custom setup for another game.




...And to finish it all! :P
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@peterf1999 don't cry bro. There are always a few children who want more and more candies
(...)
if you have enough time maybe you can do this with Hunted conversion?
... And then you talk about kiddies who want more and more candies! How childrish... :P
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Hei peterf1999, can you send the Script file that you used to make this Installer, cause im studing the codes with Precomp, SRep, 7Z and Free Arc files with ISDone, but all that i found its in russian foruns
Please, help me.
Thank you, and sorry for my english, i'm braziliam
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Talking

EDIT: I'll use this post and ask for the scripts used in this installer too, Peterf1999! XD
Of course, if possible. If not, oh well...

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Hei peterf1999, can you send the Script file that you used to make this Installer, cause im studing the codes with Precomp, SRep, 7Z and Free Arc files with ISDone, but all that i found its in russian foruns
Please, help me.
Thank you, and sorry for my english, i'm braziliam
Have you tried "The Witcher 2"?
EDIT: Oops, my mistake! This one seems to NOT use IsDone.dll, but includes built-in support for PreComp and FreeArc. That should be enough.
Unfortunately, my "googling" by "ISdone.dll" leads me to... eh... Carribean?


BTW, try these installer examples as reference:
http://fileforums.com/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=11
The "Xenus 2" custom installer uses ISDone.dll.

I don't know how these scrips can help you, but try these too!
http://rghost.net/users/shegorat/
As it contains the codes of the NFS Undercover custom installer:

Maybe it can help you somehow...




For now, that's the best help I can give to you.
Good luck, and greetings from Brazil too! o/

... But before I forget, all the links I posted here came from "russian forums" as well, so there's no excuse. =P~
Some of the "source codes", as I said before, comes with a very basic DOCumentation file (I forgot if it's PDF, PPT or DOC... but it may be in russian too ) and... to talk the truth, unless you want to TRULLY LEARN the codes and//or modify the unpacking scripts, it shouldn't be that hard to just "modify" the right parameters (You'll search a lot, yet there are just a few parameters to be changed, as I could notice in peterf1999's F1 2010 script) and BANG! New custom installer on the HDD! And I know nothing about pascal. :P

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