Titan Quest Immortal Throne - Fake/Demo trainer

[pikachu5501]

Ok, i downloaded the Titan Quest: Immortal Throne v1.1 +13 TRAINER from APACHE and it is a DEMO of a +13 patch that you have to register a GOLD account (and pay) on they site to get the full download.

Guys at gamecopyworld are doing a great job providing those file to backup our game but they should tell when it is a real or a "fake" +13 trainer.

Thanx for reading my opinion.

Sorry my english. I am french learning english

[EMPiRE]

I had not even noticed it to be a "demo" until yesterday, else it would have been listed as a +3 trainer instead of the +13 trainer, when it was posted

I can understand their logic that they want something for their work, as it takes a whole lot of time to create such a (mega) trainer and they do not get anything in return! Not many people are able to make these kinds of trainers. APACHE has his own trainer site for which he wants more visitors, this is a way to accomplish this.

So I do not think it to be a "fake" trainer, such things are usually said by people who never "paid" for anything in their life...
However, if it did not have any "free" options it would not have been posted @ GCW!

[DABhand]

Hmmm apache doing this, more likely to sign up to his forums than a pay site to be honest.

And I know Apache. Very unusual ill have a look at it, then talk to patchy if I can.

[DABhand]

This is a working trainer, obviously the poster missed the big RUN GAME and ? for the info on how to use.

The add at the bottom is not for the trainer but to help out Apache and is not needed to be clicked.

[Robbe902]

Hi there. OK. I'm from germany but i hope u understand this!

Just wanted inform you all, that the TQ IT v1.1-Trainer from APACHE is a fake.
It's a "demo trainer" with only 3 of 13 functions enabled. U can download the
full trainer from www[dot]gamehacking[dot]co[dot]uk - BUT: only if u
make a donation

When entering the site, u are forced to subscribe, to the board, to download the file, but
when done, they still don't give u access to the files as long as u are no
GOLD MEMBER (!)

And guess what.. ... JUP! - U can only become "gold member" by paying (via PayPal )

My guess: the only thing that could happen, is that ur mail address is forwarded to some damn
AddWare-Pool to get u on any SPAM list on the net!! Be carefull!
(a valid mail address is needed 'cause of an "activaion reply" for the subscription!)

These methods are poison for us... THE SCENE!!! So please:

DON'T SUPPORT THESE METHODS BY ACCEPTING THEM BY PAYING FOR A GAME TRAINER!!!

Keep the scene free from ALL charges !!!!!

Peace!

(I postet my thoughts about their methods inside their board and guess what:
4 minutes later i was whipped from the memberslist, so i inform U here!)

[Robbe902]

OK. Only to be sure that i don't make a mistake:

THIS is the file i downloaded from GWC (which OF COURSE do a great job !)

http://robbe.homeip.net/tqimtrn13.rar

When I start it, i have BIG RED LETTERS, saying that THIS is a DEMO trainer.

- if u agree to their work, u can make a donation, BUT a donation is FREE!!! otherwise they should SELL the trainer (make a copy prot for it and a serial

Please verify my file ! ^^

(please let me tell u my definition of a fake:
a fake (in my understanding) is something that isn't something that's used to be:
e.g.: when i go and buy a car, and discover afterwards that the engine is missing, then i bought a fake, or what??)

[pikachu5501]

Well, i meant "fake" by that that isn't a real "+13" but a "+3" instead but i understand that guys at Gamecopyworld can't check everything posted right away because there is so many file posted there. But still, it is the best site of that kind around the net.

I do agree with robbe302 thought that forcing people to subscribe and then telling them that they have to pay sound a bit dishonest and frustrating. If i knew that i had to subscribe for nothing and risking to get spam IF there is any, i would'n fill anything in the first place. I think if someone dosen't want to pay for it, he wont. So encouraging people instead of forcing them into making a donation (on the trainer) it is the best way, otherwise, it is not called a "volountary donation". I am sure many would be happy to make a donation like myself if the sites support on-line check from canada because not everybody can have a credit card.

Myself, i am learning to make trainers (in c++). In fact i just did my first one with "theme Hospital". Now i try to figure out Dynamic Memory Allocation and protected address as my softIce doe's not work anymore on my windows XP so i am looking for something equivalent. Then i will gladly post my trainer here to give back to the communauty. For now, i can do some for unprotected fixed adresses).


Sorry again for my bad english

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Robbe902

Hi there. OK. I'm from germany but i hope u understand this!

Just wanted inform you all, that the TQ IT v1.1-Trainer from APACHE is a fake.
It's a "demo trainer" with only 3 of 13 functions enabled. U can download the
full trainer from www[dot]gamehacking[dot]co[dot]uk - BUT: only if u
make a donation

When entering the site, u are forced to subscribe, to the board, to download the file, but
when done, they still don't give u access to the files as long as u are no
GOLD MEMBER (!)

And guess what.. ... JUP! - U can only become "gold member" by paying (via PayPal )

My guess: the only thing that could happen, is that ur mail address is forwarded to some damn
AddWare-Pool to get u on any SPAM list on the net!! Be carefull!
(a valid mail address is needed 'cause of an "activaion reply" for the subscription!)

These methods are poison for us... THE SCENE!!! So please:

DON'T SUPPORT THESE METHODS BY ACCEPTING THEM BY PAYING FOR A GAME TRAINER!!!

Keep the scene free from ALL charges !!!!!

Peace!

(I postet my thoughts about their methods inside their board and guess what:
4 minutes later i was whipped from the memberslist, so i inform U here!)

Well I dont know what trainer you got, I got the one from GCW and it does NOT come up as a demo trainer, it does show the add but the options for me work.

I know Apache very very well, and if ultimately he chooses to do a gold membership then so be it, it is HIS work. Us Trainer makers are NOT here for your ever whim and needs.

Again I took the very top +13 trainer on the list, and it works fine for me.


But ill find out more from him when I get round to it.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by pikachu5501

Well, i meant "fake" by that that isn't a real "+13" but a "+3" instead but i understand that guys at Gamecopyworld can't check everything posted right away because there is so many file posted there. But still, it is the best site of that kind around the net.

I do agree with robbe302 thought that forcing people to subscribe and then telling them that they have to pay sound a bit dishonest and frustrating. If i knew that i had to pay and get spamed, i would'n fill anything in the first place. I think if someone dosen't want to pay for it, he wont. So asking for a donation right away (on the trainer) it is the best way. I am sure many would be happy to make a donation like myself if the sites support on-line check from canada because not everybody can have a credit card.

Myself, i am learning to make trainers (in c++). In fact i just did my first one with "theme Hospital". Now i try to figure out Dynamic Memory Allocation and protected address as my softIce doe's not work anymore on my windows XP so i am looking for something equivalent. Then i will gladly post my trainer here to give back to the communauty. For now, i can do some for unprotected fixed adresses).


Sorry again for my bad english

We cant help you with fixing your softice, but Numega have a working x32 and x64 version of Sice that you can freely update.

Have a read in the coders section of the board, to show you a few tuts on DMA and how to defeat it.

Some games will require Code Shifting which is a bit more advanced.

[magic09]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Well I dont know what trainer you got, I got the one from GCW and it does NOT come up as a demo trainer, it does show the add but the options for me work.

I know Apache very very well, and if ultimately he chooses to do a gold membership then so be it, it is HIS work. Us Trainer makers are NOT here for your ever whim and needs.

Again I took the very top +13 trainer on the list, and it works fine for me.


But ill find out more from him when I get round to it.

well theres only 1 trainer made for immortal throne and its listed as a +3 and it is a demo trainer I dont care if you know the guy well its a demo for a trainer and I dont care if it took him a year to make it I wouldnt pay for it, if you think you should be paid for making a trainer you need to wake up and get a real job or something no one will pay for that, they will steal it like they steal everything else

[DABhand]

It is up to the trainer maker if he wants to sell or not, not up to people like you.


So steal it you say, well thats gonna suck if you cheese of the good trainer makers and they dont make anymore.

Then what?


If I do trainers again, and go the way of Sheep or Apache and others and make money from my work then so be it.

And you need to read up more, Apache is a very very accomplished trainer maker and has been for a very long time.


This is the typical attitude of the usual kids of the net, thinking everything is free, everything. Well guess what Life isnt that way.


And for your info I have a PC Business that I run very well.

Also you failed to READ what was said, I didnt say every trainer maker should be paid, if they choose to want to then good for them its their work and they can choose for it to be free or not. You really need to learn to read.

[DABhand]

I see I clicked on the wrong link and got the normal TQ trainer, and indeed his Immortal Throne one is limited.

But I still stand by what I said, if he chooses to make people pay to use it good. Its up to him. Domain names,webspace and life isnt free.

[magic09]

lol saying I cant read and getting the wrong trainer thats good

any way you take what I'm saying as an insult it isnt, but you running a pc business should be aware better than most that piracy happens every second of every day all it will take is for your good friend to make someone mad and he will have his stuff stolen too.

any way the demo trainer he made does work fine and not being able to get it from his site means nothing to me but dont take things so heavily or you'll die young :P

[apache-]

Ahh what such fun it is to see iam the talk of the town
Children,please calm down
the demo trainer is Not a scam to steal email address to spam anyone,that has to be the most pathetic thing i have ever read, the valid email check is there specifically to stop spambots raiding my site, i have also got a spamtrapper on the main page to send them into a loop as has been quoted earlier by the IDIOT Robbe902(who i actually banned for swearing and threatening behavour) "When I start it, i have BIG RED LETTERS, saying that THIS is a DEMO trainer." how clearer do you want it?

lets get somethings right shall we
1. I do not FORCE ANYONE ..to visit my site, you can just simple close the DEMO trainer and thats the end of the story
2. I do not FORCE ANYONE to register at my site you can just simple close the page and thats the end of the story
3. I do not 'trick anyone into registering with my site with promises of booty then give them nothing, i actually have a BANNER IMAGE on the main page stating there are sitewide changes in force in the site withe a WHOLE PAGE explaining it to everyone who wants to take the time out to read it



its not as if its a tiny image is it
You can find ALL the INFO you need in my sites F.A.Q's ,iam not hiding anything at all
4.I do not SELL subscription (yet)..the choice is yours ..you can like i have previously said walk away no harm done to anyone OR you can choose to donate to my fine site and for that kind donation i will give you something back as a big THANK YOU in return ,which is FULL access to my downloads database
if on the other hand you do not wish to donate to my fine site, then you STILL can read the very latest gaming news,catch up on what new games are being launched, check out the latest gametrailers ,take a look at some trainers in action on the video section iam developing.take part in the forum,get help with trainers and coding and read reviews much much more. i give everyone(as much as i can) a warm and personal welcome when they say hello in my forums, i will endevour to sort out any problems they have ,whether they have donated or not
5.I gave 3 of my options for free 1.ENERGY 2.ADD GOLD 3.SPEED these are fine options in their own right are they not?
i do not see any other trainers for TQIT at all anywhere at this moment in time offering these to your for free.(cheathappen's fine trainer will have these when its released to the public)
Did i not give you my last titan quest + all the updated trainers for free? was it not an excellent trainer? did i not **FIX** it when it had a few code shift problems all for free and ASKED for nothing in return
did you all like the RAINBOW SIX VEGAS trainer? How about Mage Knight Apocalypse? it was me who made ALL of them i still havent seen anothers like it on the internet
there are so many trainers i have created myself or indeed been involved in over the years and asked for nothing in return

6, I had a EFFING EXCELLENT IDEA! crucify me for it ,its the future, Welcome to the future !

7. I run my site almost single handedly (god bless VegitoSSJ,what a great guy he is ) , i make all the gfx (hehe i guess you could tell that ), for all the site ,forum post headers,banners review images games news images, the screenshots EVERYTHING!, i spend HOURS upon HOURS scouring the internet for any bit of juicy gaming news..links to demo's coding titbits i think that would interest my ALL my members, regardless of their status
If iam guilty of anything ,iam GUILTY of wanting a BETTER SITE for my members, iam GUILTY of wanting to raise revenue to PAY for a site rebuild from the ground up for MY MEMBERS for the people who support me , i will return the favour muiltifold for the people who will SUPPORT me i shall bend over backwards to succour and defend them, i shall work my bollox off to build them a place on the internet where they KNOW they have at least 1 friend, that friend is me ...I want them all to be PROUD members of GAMEHACKING.CO.UK

The people who have donated to my site , i thank each and everyone of them personally, the people who will come and help me in the future i will continue to thank each and every one of them personally, i truely appreciate their help and believe in giving something back and all i have to give is my trainers and my site content and this is what i have done and will continue to do

Man this is a huge post i hope you took the time out to read it and understand where iam coming from
best regards
apache

[pikachu5501]

DABhand: hey, i dint't know that they was a section here for coder and some tut... thanks for pointing that to me. Can't wait to have a look at it

Well, the only thing that pissed me off about all this is that they (many websites) "tricked" us into subscribing and all risking to receive a s@@@load of spams from sites that you subscribes for all kind of stuff. but in the other hand, bandwidth cost money. They should right away say that there is a small fee for it, and i have no problems with that. If someone dosen't want to pay, they can use other tools available on the internet or do they own trainers if they are willing to learn.

Another thing though that they can do (besides installing spywares) is they can advertise in they trainer like a small banners or something. If (honest and paying) gamers are using the trainers, that could be a good source of revenue too. Ok, peoples are bitching about pop-up and all.. but what's left to talented coder and all to make some money then? charging to users...

so either way, there will be allways someone to whine about something.

appach: i tell you what; i used a couple of you trainers already and i think i can use helps from the bests.. if you can tell me how i can make a small donation to you without using a f@@@ing credits card, i will oblige gladly. That's what refrain me doing transaction on the net




that's my two cents...