tekken 3 bleemcast

[lenselijer]

ok, I have an original tekken3 bleemcast disc here. And I want to create a backup of it.

But can someone tell me what tools I have to use? and the CD is also looking a bit strange. It has some kind of border at the outside of the disc.

I think the best thing to do is to use the DC coders cable or something??

[Da1m0n]

You can make a backup alright... but you won't be able to burn it back to a CD at this time with nearly all consumer-grade CDRW drives.
The bleemcast people managed to come up with some very tricked-out copy protection scheme involving audio tracks of extremely short length (AFAIK), so a drive will flat out refuse to burn the image back to a CD.
Nobody has managed to work around it yet, as the bleemcast emulator checks for those offbeat tracks or sectors very closely, and refuses to run if it finds the CD isn't the original bleemcast disc.

[hrb2k]

damn, that sux.

did echelon ever try to crack it?

[lenselijer]

do you know if someone has ever tried to backup the files of the bleemcast CD using the DC Coders Cable?

I'm thinking of buying such cable, but I don't want to buy it if it has no use.

[Soldiaz]

everyone told me that there was just one bleemcast disc and that the blue, red or whatever are identical.

And the blue one has been cracked...

[Da1m0n]

Soldiaz: you're talking about the beta ... the prototype "all-in-one" PSX emulator, as it were.

There were several copies of this beta, all color-coded (blue, red, green, yellow and (I think) orange or something)... all of them were coded such that they would only run on particular Dreamcast consoles given to official beta testers. The actual emulation code in all of these betas is identical, so when the "blue" beta was cracked, essentially all of them were cracked. Meaning, there's no point in cracking the other colors, too, as you'll end up with the exact same, unfinished bleemcast! beta.

Now, the three commercial, finished bleemcasts are a different story. One is for Tekken 3, one for Metal Gear Solid, and one for Gran Turismo 2. That's it.

But only the cracked beta works when burned to a blank CDR (it's a regular audio/data selfboot, nothing more).

Certainly, the DC Coders Cable helps in reading the original (commercial) Bleemcast discs, but the problem of making a working backup remains.

[Soldiaz]

ups ok :-) i'm sorry

[hrb2k]

i got questions,

what exactly happens when you actually try to boot a backup copy of bleem t3, mgs, or gt2? does it boot to a screen then reset? i read that somewhere.

also, what happens on the original bleem disc when you boot it? does it give a warning screen, then to a insert psx disc in screen?

[lenselijer]

there are several things that could happen. Like rebooting after the SEGA screen....

The best version that I found is a version of the gran turismo 2 version of bleemcast, that boots exactly the same as my original tekken3 bleemcast disc, I can also read all the information and menu's. Then I insert a gran turismo 2 CD and it says: 'press start'. So it DOES check the disc, then I press start and it says: 'loading' but nothing happens It has to give a black screen then it loads the emulator (that's what happens with my original tekken3 bleemcast disc).

Anyway, I can make some movies of the disc in action if you want, but there is atleast proven, that you can make a bootable backup of the gran turismo 2 bleemcast disc...

[hrb2k]

sure, make an .avi of the boot screens.