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Old 26-01-2003, 07:30
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Help! MAKEN X Reduce size for SelfBoot
BootTrack is 11700 blocks (2 Min, 36 Sec, 0 Frames).

Make X is 348820 blocks (77 Min, 30 Sec, 70 Frames).

Total 360520 blocks BUT 80 Min Blank CD is 359845 blocks.


I already use Echelon's Tutorial & CDRWin => Failed.

I already use Bin2Boot & Disc Juggler Overburn => Failed.

I already use CDI2Nero & Nero Overburn => Failed.


PLEASE

How to Reduce size for SelfBoot.

No AFS file, No SFD file inside of Maken X Copy CD (released by echelon)

0GDTEX.PVR
1ST_READ.BIN
ALLMODEL.PAC
BEF_TIT_PAC.PAC
BGIMAGE.MPB
BGIMAGE.MSB
BGOPT.FPB
BGOPT.MPB
BGOPT.MSB
BGSTG01.MPB
BGSTG01.MSB
BGSTG02.MPB
BGSTG02.MSB
BGSTG03.MPB
BGSTG03.MSB
BGSTG05.MPB
BGSTG05.MSB
BGSTG07.MPB
BGSTG07.MSB
BGSTG09.MPB
BGSTG09.MSB
BGSTG10.MPB
BGSTG10.MSB
BGSTG11.MPB
BGSTG11.MSB
BGSTG12.MPB
BGSTG12.MSB
BGSTG13.MPB
BGSTG13.MSB
BGSTG14.MPB
BGSTG14.MSB
BGSTG15.MPB
BGSTG15.MSB
BGSTG16.MPB
BGSTG16.MSB
BGSTG18.MPB
BGSTG18.MSB
BGSTG19.MPB
BGSTG19.MSB
BGSTG22.MPB
BGSTG22.MSB
BGSTG23.MPB
BGSTG23.MSB
BGSTG24.MPB
BGSTG24.MSB
BGSTG26.MPB
BGSTG26.MSB
BGSTG27.MPB
BGSTG27.MSB
BGTITLE.MPB
BGTITLE.MSB
BGWMP.MPB
BGWMP.MSB
BJBACK.BIN
BJMODEL.PAK
BRAIN.FNT
BULLET.NJ
BULLET.NJM
CITYDOWNOBJ.PAC
COMMON0.DCA
DEMO01.BIN
DEMO02.BIN
EVE_DBG_EVT.EVE
EVE_DBG_TOL.EVE
EVT_A_0_1.EVE
EVT_B_1_E_1.EVE
EVT_B_1_E_2.EVE
EVT_B_1_E_4.EVE
EVT_B_1_E_5.EVE
EVT_B_2_E_1.EVE
EVT_BATTLE2.EVE
EVT_C_0_1.EVE
EVT_C_0_2.EVE
EVT_C_1_E_0.EVE
EVT_C_1_E_1.EVE
EVT_C_2_1.EVE
EVT_C_3_1.EVE
EVT_C_3_2.EVE
EVT_C_4_E_1.EVE
EVT_D_1_E_1.EVE
EVT_D_1_E_1_PRE.EVE
EVT_D_1_E_2.EVE
EVT_END_1.EVE
EVT_END_2.EVE
EVT_END_3.EVE
EVT_END_4.EVE
EVT_END_5.EVE
EVT_END_5_TRUE.EVE
EVT_END_6.EVE
EVT_END_7.EVE
EVT_FIN.PVR
EVT_IMAGE.BIN
EVT_IMAGE_A2.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_A5.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B10.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B11.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B3.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B4.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B6.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B8.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_B9.EVE
EVT_IMAGE_OUT.EVE
EVT_INFO.BIN
EVT_OP.EVE
EVT_P_1_1.EVE
EVT_P_1_2.EVE
EVT_P_1_E.EVE
EVT_P_1_E_PRE.EVE
EVT_P_2_1.EVE
EVT_P_2_1_Y.EVE
EVT_P_3_1.EVE
EVT_P_3_2.EVE
EVT_P_3_2_1.EVE
EVT_P_3_2_2.EVE
EVT_P_3_3_1.EVE
EVT_P_3_3_2.EVE
EVT_SCRIPT.SND
EVT_SLIDE.BIN
EVT_TOOL.SND
FXIMAGE.FPB
FXOPT.FPB
FXSTG01.FPB
FXSTG02.FPB
FXSTG03.FPB
FXSTG05.FPB
FXSTG07.FPB
FXSTG09.FPB
FXSTG10.FPB
FXSTG11.FPB
FXSTG12.FPB
FXSTG13.FPB
FXSTG14.FPB
FXSTG15.FPB
FXSTG16.FPB
FXSTG18.FPB
FXSTG19.FPB
FXSTG22.FPB
FXSTG23.FPB
FXSTG24.FPB
FXSTG26.FPB
FXSTG27.FPB
FXTITLE.FPB
FXWMP.FPB
HJT.BIN
IP.BIN
IT.BIN
JOHO_IMAGE.PAC
JYO_H.MLT
JYO_S.MLT
LOCUS.PVR
MANATEE.DRV
NAME.FNT
NAMEENT0.DCA
NEOWINDOW_PAC.PAC
PCMODELS.PAK
RING1.PVR
SCRCFG.CFG
SCRCHD.CHD
SCREVE.EVE
SCREVE.FHD
SESTG01.MSB
SESTG01H.MPB
SESTG01S.MPB
SESTG02.MSB
SESTG02H.MPB
SESTG02S.MPB
SESTG03.MSB
SESTG03H.MPB
SESTG03S.MPB
SESTG04.MSB
SESTG04H.MPB
SESTG04S.MPB
SESTG05.MSB
SESTG05H.MPB
SESTG05S.MPB
SESTG06.MSB
SESTG06H.MPB
SESTG06S.MPB
SESTG07.MSB
SESTG07H.MPB
SESTG07S.MPB
SESTG08.MSB
SESTG08H.MPB
SESTG08S.MPB
SESTG09.MSB
SESTG09H.MPB
SESTG09S.MPB
SESTG10.MSB
SESTG10H.MPB
SESTG10S.MPB
SESTG11.MSB
SESTG11H.MPB
SESTG11S.MPB
SESTG12.MSB
SESTG12H.MPB
SESTG12S.MPB
SESTG13.MSB
SESTG13H.MPB
SESTG13S.MPB
SESTG14.MSB
SESTG14H.MPB
SESTG14S.MPB
SESTG15.MSB
SESTG15H.MPB
SESTG15S.MPB
SESTG16.MSB
SESTG16H.MPB
SESTG16S.MPB
SESTG17.MSB
SESTG17H.MPB
SESTG17S.MPB
SESTG18.MSB
SESTG18H.MPB
SESTG18S.MPB
SESTG19.MSB
SESTG19H.MPB
SESTG19S.MPB
SESTG20.MSB
SESTG20H.MPB
SESTG20S.MPB
SESTG21.MSB
SESTG21H.MPB
SESTG21S.MPB
SESTG22.MSB
SESTG22H.MPB
SESTG22S.MPB
SESTG23.MSB
SESTG23H.MPB
SESTG23S.MPB
SESTG24.MSB
SESTG24H.MPB
SESTG24S.MPB
SESTG25.MSB
SESTG25H.MPB
SESTG25S.MPB
SESTG26.MSB
SESTG26H.MPB
SESTG26S.MPB
SESTG27.MSB
SESTG27H.MPB
SESTG27S.MPB
SESTG28.MSB
SESTG28H.MPB
SESTG28S.MPB
SESTG29.MSB
SESTG29H.MPB
SESTG29S.MPB
SESTG30.MSB
SESTG30H.MPB
SESTG30S.MPB
SESTG31.MSB
SESTG31H.MPB
SESTG31S.MPB
SESTG32.MSB
SESTG32H.MPB
SESTG32S.MPB
SESTG33.MSB
SESTG33H.MPB
SESTG33S.MPB
SESTG34.MSB
SESTG34H.MPB
SESTG34S.MPB
SESTG35.MSB
SESTG35H.MPB
SESTG35S.MPB
SESTG36.MSB
SESTG36H.MPB
SESTG36S.MPB
SETEK01H.MPB
SETEK01S.MPB
SETEK02H.MPB
SETEK02S.MPB
SETEK03H.MPB
SETEK03S.MPB
SETEK04H.MPB
SETEK04S.MPB
SETEK05H.MPB
SETEK05S.MPB
SETEK06H.MPB
SETEK06S.MPB
SETEK07H.MPB
SETEK07S.MPB
SETEK08H.MPB
SETEK08S.MPB
SETEK09H.MPB
SETEK09S.MPB
SETEK10H.MPB
SETEK10S.MPB
SETEK11H.MPB
SETEK11S.MPB
SETEK12H.MPB
SETEK12S.MPB
SETEK13H.MPB
SETEK13S.MPB
SETEK14H.MPB
SETEK14S.MPB
SETEK15H.MPB
SETEK15S.MPB
SETEK16H.MPB
SETEK16S.MPB
SETEK17H.MPB
SETEK17S.MPB
SETEK18H.MPB
SETEK18S.MPB
SETEK19H.MPB
SETEK19S.MPB
SETEK20H.MPB
SETEK20S.MPB
SETEK21H.MPB
SETEK21S.MPB
SETEK22H.MPB
SETEK22S.MPB
SETEK23H.MPB
SETEK23S.MPB
SETEK24H.MPB
SETEK24S.MPB
SETEK25H.MPB
SETEK25S.MPB
SETEK26H.MPB
SETEK26S.MPB
SETEK27H.MPB
SETEK27S.MPB
SETEK28H.MPB
SETEK28S.MPB
SETEK29H.MPB
SETEK29S.MPB
SETEK30H.MPB
SETEK30S.MPB
SETEK31H.MPB
SETEK31S.MPB
SETEK32H.MPB
SETEK32S.MPB
SETEK33H.MPB
SETEK33S.MPB
SETEK34H.MPB
SETEK34S.MPB
SETEK35H.MPB
SETEK35S.MPB
SETEK36H.MPB
SETEK36S.MPB
SND_OUT.P04
STAFFROLL_PAC.PAC
STAGE0.DCA
STAGE01.MAP
STAGE02.MAP
STAGE03.MAP
STAGE04.MAP
STAGE05.MAP
STAGE06.MAP
STAGE07.MAP
STAGE08.MAP
STAGE09.MAP
STAGE1.DCA
STAGE10.DCA
STAGE10.MAP
STAGE11.DCA
STAGE11.MAP
STAGE12.DCA
STAGE12.MAP
STAGE13.DCA
STAGE13.MAP
STAGE14.DCA
STAGE14.MAP
STAGE15.DCA
STAGE15.MAP
STAGE16.DCA
STAGE16.MAP
STAGE17.DCA
STAGE18.DCA
STAGE18.MAP
STAGE19.DCA
STAGE19.MAP
STAGE2.DCA
STAGE20.DCA
STAGE21.DCA
STAGE21.MAP
STAGE22.DCA
STAGE22.MAP
STAGE23.DCA
STAGE23.MAP
STAGE24.DCA
STAGE24.MAP
STAGE25.DCA
STAGE25.MAP
STAGE26.DCA
STAGE26.MAP
STAGE27.DCA
STAGE27.MAP
STAGE28.DCA
STAGE28.MAP
STAGE29.DCA
STAGE29.MAP
STAGE3.DCA
STAGE30.DCA
STAGE30.MAP
STAGE31.DCA
STAGE31.MAP
STAGE32.DCA
STAGE32.MAP
STAGE33.DCA
STAGE33.MAP
STAGE34.DCA
STAGE34.MAP
STAGE35.DCA
STAGE35.MAP
STAGE36.DCA
STAGE36.MAP
STAGE4.DCA
STAGE5.DCA
STAGE6.DCA
STAGE7.DCA
STAGE8.DCA
STAGE9.DCA
STAGEPAC.PAC
TEVT_B_1_E_2.TOL
TEVT_B_1_E_4.TOL
TEVT_B_1_E_5.TOL
TEVT_B_2_E_1_CHAOS.TOL
TEVT_B_2_E_1_LAW.TOL
TEVT_C_1_E_0_ACINA.TOL
TEVT_C_1_E_0_FEI.TOL
TEVT_C_1_E_0_PIROT.TOL
TEVT_C_1_E_0_YUSUFU.TOL
TEVT_C_1_E_1.TOL
TEVT_C_2_1.TOL
TEVT_C_3_1.TOL
TEVT_C_3_2.TOL
TEVT_C_4_E_1.TOL
TEVT_D_1_E_1.TOL
TEVT_D_1_E_2.TOL
TEVT_END_5_TRUE.TOL
TEVT_IMAGE_OUT.TOL
TEVT_OP.TOL
TEVT_P_1_1.TOL
TEVT_P_1_2.TOL
TEVT_P_1_2_0.TOL
TEVT_P_1_E.TOL
TEVT_P_2_1.TOL
TEVT_P_2_1_1.TOL
TEVT_P_2_1_Y.TOL
TEVT_P_3_1.TOL
TEVT_P_3_2_1.TOL
TEVT_P_3_3_1.TOL
TEVT_P_3_3_2.TOL
TITLE.PVR
TITLE_LOAD.PAC
TITLE_OBJ.PAC
TITLE_OPTION.PAC
TITLE_SEL.PAC
TUT.PAK
US_FONT_PAC.PAC
VSSVER.SCC
W_TEX.PAC
WINDOW00.PVP
WINDOW01.PVP
WORLD_PAC.PAC
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Old 26-01-2003, 08:56
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Usually there is more space on a normal 80 min. blank than exactly 80 min., what means you can usually overburn a bit, but that depends on the CD-R. I made Maken-X selfboot years ago, following the Echelon-Tutorial. It just worked. Does your burner support overburn?
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Old 27-01-2003, 04:21
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Anyone knows other way?
PLEXTOR IDE RECORDER 12x10x32 TA

I already tested CDRWin 3.9d & Echelon's Tutorial Manual.

80Min CD-R Media Taiyo Yuden Made in Japan...
(This is High Quality 82Min Media)

I also know that.

But it's failed.

Anyone knows other way?
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Old 27-01-2003, 06:34
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I used Bin2Boot and burnt it on a 700 Mo CD.
It failed at least 3 times before I managed to burn it correctly...

By the way, you can delete 0GDTEX.PVR (image that is displayed if you use boot CD) and IP.BIN (Bin2Boot will create its own).
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Old 27-01-2003, 07:13
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maken x needs 8 seconds to be overburned.

maybe you can get one or two seconds by reducing the
first audiotrack to 225 or 150 sectors.

i have not tryed this, but the dreamcast reads tracks shorter than 4 seconds.

maybe you can delete/0byte a SETEK... or stage .... file
or replace it by a smaller one

i have not tryed this.

deleting of 0gdtex gives you 80 sectors or another second

deleting of ip.bin gives you nothing, cause it gets deletet
automatically using the echelon way or bin2boot
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Old 27-01-2003, 09:34
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I'm almost sure Bin2Boot deletes nothing...
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Old 28-01-2003, 03:10
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thanks...
Thanks ...Slider One,Terminator,Megalexxx.

I burned selfBootable Maken X.

It works successful.

I was deleted 0gdtxt.pvr & ip.bin and then Bin2Boot.

Finally, Disc Juggler & OverBurn (80:05:64).

Thanks ...Slider One,Terminator,Megalexxx.
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Old 28-01-2003, 03:58
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Team work.
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Old 28-01-2003, 10:46
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you are absolutely right megalexxx

bin2boot doesn´t delete the ip.bin .

so it can be deleted and give another 16 sectors .
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Old 28-01-2003, 11:44
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1 point for me. ;P

In fact, Bin2Boot creates its own ip.bin.
I've seen that when I've tried to had my own logo on "Sega" screen. I think I'll have to make a tool to do that...
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