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Old 21-02-2002, 18:37
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I have read that Clone CD is:---

CloneCD is a powerful CD-Copy program. It writes in Raw mode, which allows it to have total control on the data written. Therefore, CloneCD will produce real 1:1 copies of your PSX CDs. No other program is able to do the same but it only works for a select number of CD-Readers & CD-Writers!.

BUT THAT:-

NOTE: For now only CDRWIN can be used to patch PSX games. A
and:-

Basicaly there are 3 types of PSX patch,

1, Protection fix - to overcome the copyright protection contained in some of the PSX titles.
2, Trainer -
3, NTSC to PAL patch or visa versa -

So Clone CD does real 1:1 copies but can't be patched, but then if they do real 1:1 copies, then surely they don't need to be patched!!!!!

So why even bother using CDRWin, and if someone is gonna tell me because of the protection, then my question is why use Clone CD then????

I'm real confused??

Can u help
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Old 23-02-2002, 14:35
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If your burner is 100% compatable with clone cd then the only reason for cdrwin would be to change the region code by patching or to get around anti-mod protected games. If a game has anti-mod protection the original will not load in a modded console. clone cd will copy this protection as well making the backup detect the modchip and halting the load sequence. the only way around this it patching....As far as cdrwin being the only software used for patching this isnt true, if using ppf-o-matic it is possible to to make a img file with clone cd, rename the .img file to .bin, patch the bin file then rename the patched file back to .img and burn to cdr... Hope this helps.
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Old 25-02-2002, 18:49
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Thanks a lot for that response.Sorry for the delay in acknowledging that, but i was a way for the weekend.

Your reply helped, but i do have another question....do i hear you say, "OH no!!!!"

From what you said, i understand now that Clone CD makes real 1:1 copies, but that bcos some titles have anti-mod protection, they will not load in a modded console, and so Clone CD copies will suffer the same fate also!!!!Hence the need for patching.

Whereas CDWIN copies do not do a real 1:1 copy and so require patching not only for anti-mod protection detection, but also for other protectin present...eg. Libcrypt etc....

Is this correct, or am i still confused????????

Also, when you say REGION CODE protection, do you mean the PAL Vs NTSC patching issue????

Finally, i have heard that PAL TV user can buy a fully loaded Scart Lead which means they don't have to patch...Is this true??

But wouldn't they still need the appropriate mod-chip in order to play the backed up game, given the boot sequence protection,

and would a seperate mod-chip be also required in order to boot correctly to the region governing the PS you have also????

Hope to get your input on this one

Thanks in advance.
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