When patching with pal4u patch games wont re-burn-please help!!

[patchworkkid]

Hi...Ive patched a few games using pal 4 u to covert from ntsc to pal...but when I try to backup a disc that has been pal patched...it says Lirc error...and will not burn.Ive tried discjuggler and winoncd...and only clonecd will work...but means a copy to the hard disk first...and I like to burn on the fly.
Any ideas anyone...cos its doin my head in !!!!!!
Thanks in advance