Thief ver 1.33 NO CD

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Waterdust

@ zulu the purpose is to not use any iso's -.- otherwise it ain't a true "no cd" fix.

Of course, but i thought you might be interested in an MI.
It's just an option

[Waterdust]

---------------------
Clean install
---------------------
Copied the cfg's you said, Direct X Error, game crashes with usual error.
---------------------
Copied the DX fix files, DX Error, another usual crash follows.
---------------------
Copied complete MOVIE folder in, DX Error, usual error.
---------------------
Copied PAL folder in, DX Error, usual error.
---------------------
Copied INTRFACE folder in, DX Error, another usual error follows.
---------------------
Copied over various other edited files from here, No CD Error.
---------------------
Copied over current No CD fix, DX Error, usual error.
---------------------

Sorry.. did what I could here.

[Muyfa666]

Waterdust, it seems you been trying to get this to work since 2009-12-17. That's 2 straight months!

Seriously, sometimes the force of will isn't enough. Some games will never run perfect on modern hardware, and that includes the cracks. Not trying to be an arse, just saying.

[Waterdust]

Originally Posted by Muyfa666

Waterdust, it seems you been trying to get this to work since 2009-12-17. That's 2 straight months!

Seriously, sometimes the force of will isn't enough. Some games will never run perfect on modern hardware, and that includes the cracks. Not trying to be an arse, just saying.

I forget that old saying.. went something like ain't nothin in life worth doin is easy, an then there was one like if it's worth doin, it's worth doin right.

Of course it's hard to fix.. of course it'll take time.. *trying to be optimistic or
somethin here*

-----------------

@ cow - I'm lookin into it now, brb.

[Cowsheep]

I bet the fault is a path inside install.cfg, the cracks work fine.
I changed the path for the files with the text strings, loading them caused the crash probably.
This should work for a clean install in F:\Games\Thief

For other dir, simply open install.cfg with notepad and replace every F:\Games\Thief with C:\Program Files\Games\Thief e.g.

1. Clean install in F:\Games\Thief
2. Unpack attachment to gamedir, overwrite files, and NOTHING MORE.

[Waterdust]

As you said.

1. Clean install in F:\Games\Thief
2. Unpack attachment to gamedir, overwrite files, and NOTHING MORE.

Sigh.. DX Error & below.
-----------
Faulting application thief.exe, version 1.9.0.0, faulting module thief.exe, version 1.9.0.0, fault address 0x001203fa.

0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 74 68 69 ure thi
0018: 65 66 2e 65 78 65 20 31 ef.exe 1
0020: 2e 39 2e 30 2e 30 20 69 .9.0.0 i
0028: 6e 20 74 68 69 65 66 2e n thief.
0030: 65 78 65 20 31 2e 39 2e exe 1.9.
0038: 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 0.0 at o
0040: 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 30 ffset 00
0048: 31 32 30 33 66 61 0d 0a 1203fa..

[Cowsheep]

Is the gamedir 604 MB big? (Right click on Thief folder in F:\Games, then click on properties.)
With ALL files in gamedir you CANT get the DX 6 missing error.

[Waterdust]

290mb, 72 files, 2 folders.

Clearly I'm missing something.. but what? I clean installed an only added what you said, nothing more.

Sigh.. I'll look into if the movie dir is lacking while you reply.

[Cowsheep]

Copy the WHOLE content of the THIEF dir on disc into your gamefolder, all files and folders. But DO NOT overwrite something.
You noticed the different crash offset?
This means loading the fonts and textstrings is now working the function that causes the crash now is executed later on.

[Waterdust]

Well I copied the contents of the thief dir from the cd over like you asked, an yeah
the game runs without the cd.. however.. DX error remains an the game appears to be
running at a faster speed like "turbo".

Congrats on solving the no cd issue.. now those are all that remain =)

-------------------------------
"Thief requires 100% DirectX 6 compatible drivers for your video/3d card.
If you do not have such drivers, you may experience some problems
while running Thief.

If you experience rendering problems, or system crashes please update
the drivers for your card by contacting your card or PC manufacturer.

If you have a video card with 3d FX Voodoo 2 chipset, drivers have
been provided on the Thief CD, in the Drivers folder.

Please consult the Readme file for more detailed information."

< > Don't show me this message again.

OK
-------------------------------

Yet.. DX Installed = 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) hmm..

[TippeX]

you're multi core cpu aren't you? if so, use oneprocessorlaunch (or similar) to get around the turbo thing... funny, how if you had have actually copied all the files and followed the instructions you got many times we would have saved 2+ months...

[Cowsheep]

Not 2 months at all, the idea with skip_starting_checks, removing cd_path and change one line so that the archive with fonts and text was read i covered later.

Do you have the files ddfix.dll and ddfix.ini in your gamedir?

(ddfix.dll is a patched directdraw.dll and import in thief.exe is changed to load ddfix.dll. Missing this file lets the game think no DX installed.)

[Waterdust]

Yes both files are in here, much like you an I both know all the files you've asked me to
keep/put/etc should be.

[Cowsheep]

Try this exe:http://www.thief-thecircle.com/download.asp?fid=726

[Waterdust]

Alright I'll give it a shot, but isn't that going to mess up the files you gave me?
It's an exe file that applies to 1.33 also.

PS: I just reformatted my windows so give me a few hours or so (wanted to
flush out unrelated problems).