SafeDisc2 is copyable

[crispy]

packer (17-01-2001 18:49):
I think it is becuase i have made working backups of Ground Control and Deus Ex which i think are both Safedisc 2.
I got clone database which told me that

I got A SONY CRX140E cd writer

Hi mate. I don't know about Ground Control, but DEUS EX is not protected. (have copied it myself with no hassle). I must admit that I don't trust CloneDB that much. In saying that, I find that the 3 different CD protection detectors I use do sometime throw out different results with the same CD!!

And Captain Trips, if you are home from school yet, check out
####://www.daemon-tools.com/main800.htm

There is some interesting points made by Swenske and Venom386 (co-creators of Daemon tools) which, as I explained ealier, lays the blame for an inability to burn SD2 reliably firmly on the hardware and it's firmware. Even if you won't believe me, you can't deny what these two masters have to say.......

[Raks55]

crispy i glad to see someone in here knows what their talking about. By the way Ground Control is protected with Safedisk 1. I have been posting this stuff up for ages now but for some reason no one is taking any notice, they just keep posting the same stupid questions about SD 2 about it over and over. Anyway thats my moan of the day.

Later

[Mane]

Nope Ground Control is also not SD2 protected either. I did my backup copy using (ackhmmm) Adaptec. Needs the patch and crack though to work.

Now i have a question bout Deus Ex. I have just received a copy of it from a friend so that we can play online against each other or as a team but both his copy (original) and the copy he did for me takes 5 mins to load up and also when you get killed it freezes. Even control Alt and Delete doesnt work and the only way out is to Alt and Tab and then close the program. I have tried the game upgrade poatch and this didnt work either and was wondering if he has a faulty game or whether it is a bug in the game? Any help will be appreciated on this. Thanks.

[crispy]

Mane (20-01-2001 00:20):
Nope Ground Control is also not SD2 protected either. I did my backup copy using (ackhmmm) Adaptec. Needs the patch and crack though to work.

Now i have a question bout Deus Ex. I have just received a copy of it from a friend so that we can play online against each other or as a team but both his copy (original) and the copy he did for me takes 5 mins to load up and also when you get killed it freezes. Even control Alt and Delete doesnt work and the only way out is to Alt and Tab and then close the program. I have tried the game upgrade poatch and this didnt work either and was wondering if he has a faulty game or whether it is a bug in the game? Any help will be appreciated on this. Thanks.

Sorry to hear of your probs with DEUS EX. I have been running a backup of this game for a while and have myself had probs with it. Not as you describe, but probs with my video card on shutdown. I know there are two patches available for this game from eidosinteractive.co.uk

One is a fairly small video card fix, but the other is a rather whopping multiplayer and game patch (>10 meg, I think) so if you've time to spare downloading it, this may help. It may be worthwhile re-installing yours from the original just for safety's sake, then using your copy for the cd-check.

Good luck....

[packer]

crispy (19-01-2001 18:42):

Hi mate. I don't know about Ground Control, but DEUS EX is not protected. (have copied it myself with no hassle). I must admit that I don't trust CloneDB that much. In saying that, I find that the 3 different CD protection detectors I use do sometime throw out different results with the same CD!!

And Captain Trips, if you are home from school yet, check out
####://www.daemon-tools.com/main800.htm

There is some interesting points made by Swenske and Venom386 (co-creators of Daemon tools) which, as I explained ealier, lays the blame for an inability to burn SD2 reliably firmly on the hardware and it's firmware. Even if you won't believe me, you can't deny what these two masters have to say.......

Sorry for posting a dof statement like that , I found out that Ground control was protected by securom . DFLW is a SD2 and i copied it and it installed but it would'nt play, what oter settings could i trie

[crispy]

Hi mate.
If you only have access to the Sony burner, and the game you want to copy is SD2, then it looks like you are out of luck. I've seen many posts from peeps who've successfully copied SD2 (eg RA2) but can't remember anyone mentioning a Sony drive. The only hardware having repeated success are those based on Phillips internals (Acer, Fujitsu) and Iomega ZipCD. You may be better off patching with something off GCW to be sure of a working copy.

[Raks55]

Cripsy and Packer just thought i say that some SD2 games can be backed with Sony drives because they seem to use a weaker version of SD2. RA2 and Alice seem to use the hard version, but DFLW, NOLF and MW4 seem to use the easy version depending where you live. This is just what i read in other forums i can't tell you for sure bacause i don't own any of the so-called easy to copy games.

[crispy]

HI mate....yep you're right about the different levels of protection. RA2 seems to have been the highest level so far, and there are definitely some games with lower SD2 (or maybe just an updated version of SD1??) protection. I agree that as far as the weaker ones are concerned, any drive which was able to copy SD1 should copy SD2 as well. (including that old favourite, the Sony!)
I should have been more specific in my post, but didn't want to confuse peeps any more!! So, just to clarify....if the version of SD2 on a game uses these "weak" sectors, then only a few drives will produce a copy which works on any drive, whilst the rest which work only the burner that produced them.

Cheers guys for an interesting thread.

[goreloozer]

hey captain lips!!! stop flappin ur mouth u non copying LIAR!!! u dont know JACK!!!!!!!

[Dead Of Night]

I take it not many people keep upto date on copright protections such as boringloozer(u lie u lie)look on this site and whoa and behold unsafedisc 2 is out and daemon 2.47is out the first is a unpacker to create your own cracks very similar to the first unsafedisc.The second is a code that fills in the blanks that safedisc 2 puts onto your disc when you burn them.Info can be found on Daemon website for a detailed description of what safedisc2 does and how it can be fixed.Certain precautions can be taken when burning a cd to create a 1:1 copy.This is not bollocks its fact take time to study what people say and you too can do 1:1 copys of certain games(not all)that have safedisc 2 protection...Please Boringloozer get a twating life.

[crispy]

Dead Of Night (25-01-2001 18:50):
I take it not many people keep upto date on copright protections such as boringloozer(u lie u lie)look on this site and whoa and behold unsafedisc 2 is out and daemon 2.47is out the first is a unpacker to create your own cracks very similar to the first unsafedisc.The second is a code that fills in the blanks that safedisc 2 puts onto your disc when you burn them.Info can be found on Daemon website for a detailed description of what safedisc2 does and how it can be fixed.Certain precautions can be taken when burning a cd to create a 1:1 copy.This is not bollocks its fact take time to study what people say and you too can do 1:1 copys of certain games(not all)that have safedisc 2 protection...Please Boringloozer get a twating life.

Interesting post mate.

I understand what you are trying to say but there are still a few errors ro your thoughts..

1. unsafedisc2 just creates a decrypted game.exe so that UNPERFECT copies will run.
2. Daemon tools is a fine program which EMULATES what most cd burners cannot reproduce about copy protections (and of course allow you to run images from your HD, rather than a cd). It does not however "fill in the blanks" as you put it. It merely emulates these if they are missing from the copy. So if your copy is not a perfect 1:1 copy, then it will not run without daemon in the background.
3. Playback - this is a new emulation program which works in a similar fashion to Daemon Tools and again, only helps you run an IMPERFECT copy (although it would appear with full SD2 emulation...which Daemon Tools is just about to do)

What we were talking about was creating a PERFECT copy which will run in any drive, without patching or emulation. There is NO program which can write these new sectors if your hardware is not up to the task.
So the problem still remains. If your burner cannot handle these "weak" sectors (many can't which is why Macrovision has spent a lot of time and money specially creating them) then you CANNOT burn a perfect 1:1 copy, only a copy which is IMPERFECT.

Hi I have a Sony CRX-140E too and cannot create a working backup off HIT-MAN Please help!! me.? email me

Hi I have a Sony CRX-140E too and cannot create a working backup of HIT-MAN Please help!! me.? email me

packer (21-01-2001 17:07):

Sorry for posting a dof statement like that , I found out that Ground control was protected by securom . DFLW is a SD2 and i copied it and it installed but it would'nt play, what oter settings could i trie

[Raven]

Can a Mitsumi CR-4804TE copy and successfully make a working backup of Safedisc v2 games? The 4804TE does RAW reading and RAW writing, as well as sub channel reading for both audio and data. I have read some posts somewhere that this CD-RW does copy and burn SD2 games... Anyone use this drive?