SafeDisc2 is copyable
 

Hi,
Just made a selfrunning backup of Hitman and American MCGee's Alice with an Yamaha 8424. Runs perfect. Tried it with my Sony CXR 140E, works too. SafeDisc2 is not that hard as I thought a month ago. Believe me it is copyable, just use your brain!!!!

My friend manage to copy a SafeDisc2 protected disc with a HP 8200i, and it works fine! The thing is to read it in the CD-Burner and not from a CD-ROM or a DVD player.

Hi , could u give me a clue about how u did it ?

Oh man, has nothing to do with the reader. You can use any reader you want. You are just one of the lucky guys whom burner can manage the new copyprotection sectors. Runs your CD only in your writer or in every drive ??? And by the way, I am speaking here of readers that NORMALLY can't copy a SD2 game (self-running of cause).

So, you give us any info, or not, how to copy sd2. :)

u cant tell us ur settings because ur a liar!!!!!!!!GUARENTEEEED!!

Yes, certain safedisk 2 discs can be backed up, I think Red alert 2 is SD2 and thats a simple one, but your missing the point about safedisc 2' capabilities:
Every time safedisk is incorporated into a master CD, it can be altered by the manufacturer to hve different characteristics, you may copy one cersion of a CD, but maybe not the next version. Its kinda hard to explain to people just how advanced this system is.
Its not about the hardware ot the software your using but about the way SafeDisc 2 is implemented.

Cant help you anymore, sorry I guess that people will just never undersatnd it.

Hi,

fisrt of all gorelooser if you thing it is something about settings in any proggi you are on the wrong road, and disquallified yourself. Every one who wants to have it the easy way : "put cd into reader, readout image (i.e. CloneCD), put cdr into writer, write image and off she goes" then buy a burner that is normally capable of burning SD2. Once again I am speaking here of a method, with which you can burn SD2 with a burner that usually can't do it (Sony and other zillions of that kind). O.k. Right now it works for me, but hzave to test and prove that it works for others. Untill than I won't give any hints or tips. Have a little pation, K???? I wanted to give you some hope that it is possible to copy SD2 and encourage you to try it for yourself. But leave the old paths. So now you can start to call names and all the bullshit allways starts. Maybe next week am ready to explain how it works, but first the checkups.

Till then

Cap

GIVE UP, it's possible on most Phillips, some Ricoh, some yamaha, and thats as far as I know, This **** isn't gonna tell you how he's done it even if he has.

Try another source but I can tell you this much it is nothing to do with the settings or the software you use.

Yes, you jerk, right, now I won't. I wish you all a happy coaster-burning !!!!

And duckers, you are the know-it-all. You make me breathless of wonder :)

Firstly, andras or eva31 or whatever your name is....why do you keep posting spam links to you bloody website??? STOP SPAMMING YOU TWAT. You've been warned on other forums so stop it.

Secondly, CaptainTrips, the only way you are going to convince me that you've found some magical way of forcing a burner to do perfect copies of SD2 is to post some info to back up your ludicrous claims.
There have been plenty of posts in many forums by peeps with more obvious knowledge than yourself. They all agree on the same thing. That SD2 is a very clever protection scheme which utilises weaknesses in the firmware and operating abilities of end-user CD writers. This is not a software question.......if it was then CloneCD would never work on any burner. The fact is that it is clearly a hardware based problem. i.e. have the correct hardware and you'll burn a copy which works on all CDROMS. It wasn't that long ago that some of us refused to buy new hardware to allow CloneCD to be used to the full. Now that seems foolish as pretty much everything can be copied.
So my point to you is this. I have enough knowledge to be totally convinced that the problems we've had with SD2 are based upon the hardware and firmware that we are running. NOT any software. So if you've managed to alter you burner's firmware AND it still works then WELL DONE INDEED. You really are very clever indeed. However, if you're bragging because you have a working copy of a SD2 title (RA2 is the only one currently causing major problems) which many people have already achieved, then sit down and chill. What most of us are after is a workable copy for everyone who wants it. The success rate is only determined at this time by the hardware that peeps are running.
So unless you fancy explaining yourself, then please stop posting silly "look what I can do" rubbish posts.

So my post to you is this,

what is your problem ??? That someone could be out there, who could know or maybe know how it works without this "buy new burner" shit and won't tell you right away how it works ??? Oh man, grow up!!! If you treat people like you do, than don't expect anything of them. Buying a new burner is your solution ?
O.k. why not. I shit money all day long :)

First, it is no magic, cause i am not a
magican :)
Second, weakness in the firmware is likely wrong,
operating abilities of writer maybe
correct, but it's only one half of the truth
Third, the ability of software doesn't matter,
I agree with that
Fourth, I have not modified my firmware, there
are better people than me hunting and
trying this solution
Fifth, "RA2 is the only one currently causing
major problems", come on man, read some
posts and forums, and say it again :)
Sixth, "please stop posting silly "look what I can
do" rubbish posts", yep, this was my last
of this sort

O.k. this is my last post in this thread. Makes no fun anymore. I have not achieved the honor, fame and respect i came for ;) Buhuuuuuhuu. You all convinced me, it has no sence to say it works and not to tell how. That is really mean of me. I am a bad, bad boy and an asshole, too!!!
So go and buy a new burner, go hunting for new settings and keep up your wailing and awe about this "good" SD2 protection :) and decorate your romm with coasters. And when the next and protection comes, buy a new burner and so on and so on........ But that is the way of life, some know-it-all deserve it not better ;)
Oh, and I give a f...., ehm, I don't care if you believe me or not, have no interest in convincing you.

Bye
the biggest mean asshole
Captain Trips

Crispy hits the nail on the head.

Unless he can write a decompiler for the firmware, alter data and reinstall it without making a bug then he is a clever guy..........
otherwise well have to just keep trying.
Never mind it happens to the best of us.

Catch you later.

cripsy you are 100% correct, it all to do with hardware. Like you said if we modify the firmware then we might be able to copy SD2 some guys are working on this right now for Plextor and Sony writers. Hopefully if they are successfull we won't have to worry about the stupid protection. Captaintrips doesn't know shit, Olli himself said it doesn't work.

I think it is becuase i have made working backups of Ground Control and Deus Ex which i think are both Safedisc 2.
I got clone database which told me that

I got A SONY CRX140E cd writer