need help with buying a dvd writer

whttabeach · #1 03-01-2002, 03:52

Im in the market to buy a new dvd writer and i am really confused about alot of things and need help selecting a writer. Basically i want a DVD writer that can replace my current CD-RW (caus DVD writers arent cheap and i can sell the CDRW to someone to make save a little money), so i heard there are combination writers (but they arent as fast as current cd writers but that doesnt really matter). The next thing (this is the part im confused about) the difference between DVD-r & rw, and DVD+RW.
I read in a magazine that +RW is a newer format that can play DVD-video in virtually any DVD player, but -rw doesnt play in every player. I also heard that the companies supporting +RW are trying to pass this format off as the new median and not releasing a write-once format (+R?) to avoid the complications of CD-r media and CD-rw, and make it more like a really large floppy drive. On the other hand, these dvd+RW drives do not write dvd-r and -rw (which i need dvd-r to backup my PS2 games). I've talked to a few people and they all have said that the Pioneer A03 DVR is the best bet.
I'd like to hear your insights on my situation. P.S. Price doesnt really matter.

#2 03-01-2002, 18:32

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whttabeach (03-01-2002 11:52):
Im in the market to buy a new dvd writer and i am really confused about alot of things and need help selecting a writer. Basically i want a DVD writer that can replace my current CD-RW (caus DVD writers arent cheap and i can sell the CDRW to someone to make save a little money), so i heard there are combination writers (but they arent as fast as current cd writers but that doesnt really matter). The next thing (this is the part im confused about) the difference between DVD-r & rw, and DVD+RW.
I read in a magazine that +RW is a newer format that can play DVD-video in virtually any DVD player, but -rw doesnt play in every player. I also heard that the companies supporting +RW are trying to pass this format off as the new median and not releasing a write-once format (+R?) to avoid the complications of CD-r media and CD-rw, and make it more like a really large floppy drive. On the other hand, these dvd+RW drives do not write dvd-r and -rw (which i need dvd-r to backup my PS2 games). I've talked to a few people and they all have said that the Pioneer A03 DVR is the best bet.
I'd like to hear your insights on my situation. P.S. Price doesnt really matter.

Well, I won't deal with the DVD+RW point as it takes us nowhere in the PS2 context. The PS2 reads DVD-RW but I don't know about DVD+RW.

The Pioneer A03 is the current definitive burner for PS2 DVD games but it is not a suitable replacement for a CD Burner in the context of CloneCD. The A03 doesn't properly handle sub-channel data for PS2 purposes. So keep the CD-RW like I did. Trouble is that you don't find out about these things by reading the spec.

crispy81 · #3 03-01-2002, 19:41

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Charlie (04-01-2002 02:32):

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whttabeach (03-01-2002 11:52):
Im in the market to buy a new dvd writer and i am really confused about alot of things and need help selecting a writer. Basically i want a DVD writer that can replace my current CD-RW (caus DVD writers arent cheap and i can sell the CDRW to someone to make save a little money), so i heard there are combination writers (but they arent as fast as current cd writers but that doesnt really matter). The next thing (this is the part im confused about) the difference between DVD-r & rw, and DVD+RW.
I read in a magazine that +RW is a newer format that can play DVD-video in virtually any DVD player, but -rw doesnt play in every player. I also heard that the companies supporting +RW are trying to pass this format off as the new median and not releasing a write-once format (+R?) to avoid the complications of CD-r media and CD-rw, and make it more like a really large floppy drive. On the other hand, these dvd+RW drives do not write dvd-r and -rw (which i need dvd-r to backup my PS2 games). I've talked to a few people and they all have said that the Pioneer A03 DVR is the best bet.
I'd like to hear your insights on my situation. P.S. Price doesnt really matter.

Well, I won't deal with the DVD+RW point as it takes us nowhere in the PS2 context. The PS2 reads DVD-RW but I don't know about DVD+RW.

The Pioneer A03 is the current definitive burner for PS2 DVD games but it is not a suitable replacement for a CD Burner in the context of CloneCD. The A03 doesn't properly handle sub-channel data for PS2 purposes. So keep the CD-RW like I did. Trouble is that you don't find out about these things by reading the spec.

So what you're saying Charlie is that the Pioneer won't properly handle sub-channel data for PS2 purposes in regards to writing them or reading PS2 using CloneCD????

I assume you mean that the Pioneer DVD Burner is perfect for WRITING PS2 games, but not reading them to images using CloneCD???

I was planning on buying a Pioneer DVD Burner, that, in conjunction with my Pioneer DVD-Rom drive with CloneCD to create DVD Images of DVD based PS2 discs, as well as my Sony CR-X175E as a backup.

wildthing · #4 04-01-2002, 01:09

This site has extensive reviews of both Pioneer A03 & hp100i DVD burners

www.dvdwriters.co.uk

#5 04-01-2002, 04:55

So what you're saying Charlie is that the Pioneer won't properly handle sub-channel data for PS2 purposes in regards to writing them or reading PS2 using CloneCD????
ANSWER: Yes. This applies to CDs, of course. A03 is fine for CDRWin 3.8g if you're patching. PrimoDVD behaves like CloneCD too - but as I mentioned, no sub-channel handling on burning.

I assume you mean that the Pioneer DVD Burner is perfect for WRITING PS2 games, but not reading them to images using CloneCD???
ANSWER: It's writing that's the problem. It reads sub-channel so that it can properly play VCDs and digital sound.

I was planning on buying a Pioneer DVD Burner, that, in conjunction with my Pioneer DVD-Rom drive with CloneCD to create DVD Images of DVD based PS2 discs, as well as my Sony CR-X175E as a backup.
ANSWER: The hardware is a good combination, leaving CloneCD to the Sony CRX. You would need to use Nero 5.5.6.4 or PrimoDVD to make DVD copies (tutorials on ####://www.psxcopyworld.co.uk )

LIL LARK · #6 04-01-2002, 15:39

i was also thinkg abotu investing in a pioneer burner but i have an lg cd burner now in my secont port and a reguacal cd drive in my first port i would like to no which port to install the new pioneer burner into....and what is subchanneling?what does it do?>

crispy81 · #7 04-01-2002, 15:40

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Charlie (04-01-2002 12:55):
So what you're saying Charlie is that the Pioneer won't properly handle sub-channel data for PS2 purposes in regards to writing them or reading PS2 using CloneCD????
ANSWER: Yes. This applies to CDs, of course. A03 is fine for CDRWin 3.8g if you're patching. PrimoDVD behaves like CloneCD too - but as I mentioned, no sub-channel handling on burning.

I assume you mean that the Pioneer DVD Burner is perfect for WRITING PS2 games, but not reading them to images using CloneCD???
ANSWER: It's writing that's the problem. It reads sub-channel so that it can properly play VCDs and digital sound.

I was planning on buying a Pioneer DVD Burner, that, in conjunction with my Pioneer DVD-Rom drive with CloneCD to create DVD Images of DVD based PS2 discs, as well as my Sony CR-X175E as a backup.
ANSWER: The hardware is a good combination, leaving CloneCD to the Sony CRX. You would need to use Nero 5.5.6.4 or PrimoDVD to make DVD copies (tutorials on ####://www.psxcopyworld.co.uk )

OK, just so that I am absolutely clear Charlie, the Pioneer A03 Burner ISN'T good for burning PS2 games (either CD or DVD based), is that what you're saying?

Which is the best burner for burning PS2 games then?

I do use PrimoDVD 2.0 to create global images of DVD Based PS2 games.