Two Worlds II DVD9 to DVD5

[Dx30]

Thx for the info. I have read that yener will be off 2 months because of exams. That means he will be back sometimes in August, and my request in among the last in his thread.... so my conversion won't be done (if at all) till September.
Is yener the only one capable of doing CI conversions or is there someone else i could ask?
Don't want to sound like an impatient kido just asking

[HellRazor]

Originally Posted by Dx30

Thx for the info. I have read that yener will be off 2 months because of exams. That means he will be back sometimes in August, and my request in among the last in his thread.... so my conversion won't be done (if at all) till September.
Is yener the only one capable of doing CI conversions or is there someone else i could ask?
Don't want to sound like an impatient kido just asking

Just because it is requested last, doesn't mean it will be done last.

[Dx30]

It sound logical to me you know "First-come, first-served" xD
Anyway i doubt it will be made since the goty edition came out almost 2 years ago. This game doesn't seem to be that popular.

[Dx30]

Hello
I am definitely not trying to BUMP this thread <--- lie xD
Anyway i am done with the game now, took me about 50 hours, and i don't want the game to sit on my pc till someone makes a conversion for me.... so i have decided to make one myself. This is the version of the game i am talking about http://www.gog.com/gamecard/two_worlds_2_epic_edition
Using yener's CI Designer 0.4 making the installer is possible thx to his tutorial . I can make buttons with this site http://dabuttonfactory.com/ and the internet will provide images. It will not be the best looking installer but it will serve its purpose.
What i need help with is the actual compression of the game. The installed game is 4.87 gb big and all other languages are already removed. What do i use to try to compress it? Is there a tutorial somewhere? Some help would be appreciated. Is my first conversion
P.S. sorry for the wall of text

[pakrat2k2]

yes there a few threads to read for a wealth of info.

The first program is called Freearc ( which may but not always be used in inno scripts ) >

http://freearc.org/Download.aspx

the second of course is Inno itself-I'd suggest unicode as most scripts here use it, not all but most.>

http://www.jrsoftware.org/isdl.php

First one of course as your using yeners scripts> http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=92805

tutorials & answers about inno setup
http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=93191

When you read the second link above, pay attention to the link inside as it points to where you ask questions if you have any. But i'd suggest to read each thread thru entirely & make notes for questions you have ( see if they have already been asked & answered before )

last one is for of course the script thread, which has a bunch of info in there too.
http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=91563

good luck & if stuck or need help just ask, guys here are great for helping out.

[Dx30]

Thx for the reply. The info you posted is really helpful but somehow i am more confused than before. Been reading for 15 minutes and my head is spinning .
I don't know where to start. With the installer and then worry about the compression ? Should i use CI or CIU and what's the difference? So many question have arisen in my mind since i started reading from the links you posted. Someone should write a book called "Creating custom conversion for dummies" lol . Jokes aside there is much info in these threads so that it seems quite intimidating.... from the viewpoint of a beginner at least.
Can you just tell me where to begin? Maybe my first step should be to create a new Inno setup script file? It will make it easier for me to continue after you showed me the right direction.
Sorry for my many questions. At least i am trying to learn...

[pakrat2k2]

here's a link to a basic inno installer, that was used BEFORE yener's CI / CIU
written by Peterf1999 & re-used numerous times for other conversions. Look in
The Witcher2.iss script & see how it links the images from Wizard_Res subfolder.

The only things that need changing in the script are the name of the game, the registry entries & the number of images, from the Witcher 2.iss script itself

const
  PlayTask = 0;
  SupportTask= 1;
  AllUsers = 2;
  Current = 3;
  GE_resource = '';
  bgicount= 6;
  WSplash=671;
  HSplash=214;

in the wizard_res folder there are BGI0... - BGI5... images, both 4x3 & 16x9 count as 1, ( for screen resolution ) 0-5=6 thats where the bgicount number comes in.

I know its a fairly old script, but once you understand that one, then jump into yener's scripts. Making the images for yener's scripts are much more complicated then the one below.

Everything you need to start is included, just edit the iss scripts to match what game you want to do , get your images & registry entries, make the scripts match that info
& compile it.

http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=91517

use whatever program you want for the images to resize them accordingly, see how big the 4x3 & 16x9 images are then make yours match them.

its a starting point at least. others may say dont bother with that one use yener's, but if you dont understand even the basics how will you deal with making buttons, cursors etc, ..... you wont.

good luck have fun.

EDIT

Just looked thru Two Worlds 2 Epic Edition & its definately going to need the newer CI/CIU as its a 2 piece game.
The main game itself & Castle Defense addon, which can either be installed or not.

Will have to be patient, see if it can be done.

[Dx30]

Thx for your patience pakrat. This is what i call a newb friendly response
Exactly what i have been looking for : a start. I don't care if its outdated as long as i learn something from it. You have to start somewhere.
I wasn't aware that yener's scripts are more complicated. Good to know. It would be much harder trying to start from yener's scripts.
I have one more question if may ask you: Do you guys ( pro conversion makers)
make a new script for every game, or do you use the scripts of someone else (yener or peter) and just edit it?

[pakrat2k2]

yeners script was made for just that. A starting point. Then you add your own images, etc etc, test install / uninstall and once finally everythings right then it gets posted.

Same for Peterf1999's script, he shared a ton of conversion scripts, then people started to remove his name & he stopped sharing.

BIG POINT !!!!! ALWAYS include in post who the original author of the script was, thank them for allowing you to use it.

Then post the instructions for your conversion... takes alot of time & patience to get it right.

( ps refresh page as added info from post above yours)

2 worlds epic edition + castle defense = 5.06GB 1 Language.

[Dx30]

You gave me a good insight into conversion making today. For that i am grateful. If i manage to make this conversion (or any other ) i will make sure to give proper credit to the author of the material used
Saw your edit. Totally forgot about Castle defense. That explains why my game is only 4.87 gb because i didn't install it. If it needs newer CI/CIU conversion i wont be able to make right away. It will take time to get familiar with yener's scripts . This wont be that easy after all.

[pakrat2k2]

if its the design part that scares you most.. Yener90 wrote a designer program for the graphics part of his CI/CIU called CIDesigner0.4a.7z in topic below:

http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=93196

there is a detailed how-to in that topic as well. also look thru the "sticky' topics at top of this forum for his CIU Source file & info on what needs to be where, its a huge
thread so lots to go thru. Ive posted enough information to make your head explode... LOL sure seems like info overload.. but its not too bad.

download his source file open & extract the setup.cab so you can see what files are what & where they need to go. then browse thru the ISS script & setup.ini to see how its put together...

Im still learning on the design part myself & its lots of trial & error to get things just right... doesnt happen all overnight, can takes ages to get it right... if you need specific help just look at the conversions posted who wrote them, & Private Message them rather then asking in a wrong topic.

[Dx30]

Hey
I have tried it today and.... it didn't work. Using lzma2/ultra64 the game is still 4.52 gb big : setup-1a.bin - 1.42 gb, setup-1b.bin - 1.42 gb, setup-1c.bin - 1.42 gb , setup-2a.bin - 252 mb . So either the game can't fit on 1 dvd or it will require using advanced compression . Maybe someone more experienced will take a look.

[pakrat2k2]

ive tried numerous ways as well & cant get it to fit on 1xdvd5... crappy but oh well, might as well use no compression & put it on 2xdvd5.

[Bl@tty]

Hi!
Maybe I have a solution:
1.
Compress WDfiles folder except(!) Graphics.wd with precomp-FAST+srep+lzma
2.
Compress WDfiles\Graphics.wd with FreeArc -m3 or better (Why not precomp? Because both precomp versions gives me error with this file.)
3.
Compress remaining files with srep+lzma.
With these steps I have 4.16 GB of archives.

If I compress Castle Defense too with srep+lzma, I get 4.26 GB in summary but without reditributable (DX+OAL+PhysX) files.
Maybe with DXwebsetup and a small installer it will fit on 1xDVD5.
Good luck!

Sorry for my english. I don't used it for long time...

[Dx30]

Hello
Bl@tty that could indeed be the solution. However since i never used any of these programs you listed (freearc, precom and srep) i can't test it myself. Maybe pakrat will try it later and see if it works. Thank you for your effort
On a side note i made a mistake yesterday trying to make the installer. I used yener's CI designer 0.4 with recycled images and buttons just to test the installation. The designer gave me a setup.ini file with the values i used during creation of the installer and arranged the files for my setup.cab ( i used 7z to create the archive and named it setup.cab <--- hope this is the correct way of creating cabs ) . Then i replaced the ini and cab from yener's ciu1.0.0.6.7z with my own and tried to run setup.exe from yeners' ciu.... nothing happening when i try. The setup appears to be starting and then just stops lol. It just sits on my taskbar doing nothing. There must be a mistake in my cab or ini file.
Could someone check it out. I uploaded the files.