SimCity: Societies Update #3

[-HeX-]

Well, we have two persons with the Vitality crack working, both in Vista. I'm using XP SP2. Maybe the crack is not working in XP?

[FM-Staalker]

I am using XP2 as well, so perhaps that is the issue.

[simdude]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

All groups have a history of non-working cracks, due to the lack of testing that results from the constant race to release cracks as soon as possible. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth."

I'm not doing that, it doesn't work at all. This horse doesn't even have a mouth.

[BarryB]

simdude, cracks come 'as is' without ANY guarantee they will work, the sooner people understand that the better, but unfortunately people will still bitch and complain if a crack won't work so you just can't win.

[Joe Forster/STA]

@simdude: There were times when some software didn't load its components at all on my C64. Then I realized that it expected the disk drive to have device number 8, while mine was set to 9. "Not at all" in this case was equivalent to "not with some configuration setting".

Crackers obviously don't release cracks that don't work at all. And, again, don't whine if something that you got for free doesn't work as expected; instead, be grateful when it does.

[FM-Staalker]

Okay, look. I may be unique in this aspect, but I wasn't whining or bitching about it not working. Hell, I have the original disk to use. I was trying to let others know, as well as the crackers, that the file wasn't working. Since I obviously am not alone in this, as so far I haven't found anyone using XP2 that can make it work, I would expect it to be something they would be interested in.

I hear Vitality talk shit all the time. Read the NFO files that come with their cracks and software hacks and see. They constantly put down other groups. Hey, I used to work with some of the other groups, so I know what the scene is like. However, in a period of 48 hours I saw them release three cracks that didn't work, but they still wanted to talk shit about others who put out cracks just like them.

I have no issue with that, in fact, I don't care who says what. But if they truly want to talk smack and get respect for what they do, they should be interested in correcting the mistakes they make. If they aren't, fine, but don't go talking your shit about others.

I give them props for correcting the Soulstorm crack, the new one works great...but truthfully, the Reloaded was working fine before they even released the broken one. And I also show my gratitude for their services.

Still, the issue with the SSC crack isn't a rare few, it's everyone I have talked to. Visit the various torrent sites and DL lists that have the Vitality crack for SSC, you'll find tons of comments about it not working.

Something is wrong with it. Letting them know is a good thing, no? Isn't that really what this place is for? Get off your high horse and quit trying to defend a mistake. They made one somewhere, and even if they won't fix it or care to try and fix it...the point is, it should be made known that a mistake was made. Not to insult them, but to warn others who will try to use the file.

Now, as for the crack. It isn't a "Configuration" issue. I have four PC's in my home, and three at my office. All different set-ups, but the one thing they have in common is they are all using XP2. The crack WILL NOT work on ANY of them, and yes I spent the time installing the game and the patch to see, hoping that I could find something in my "game" machine that was off.

Maybe XP isn't the issue, but I have yet to find anyone with XP who can make it work. You really want to call that a "configuration" issue?

In addition, many of the cracking crews these days don't have the games they crack for. They just open the executes and remove the protection code. You can do that without ever opening the game up. Problem is, when something goes wrong...like this case...you don't know it until you release it and hear about it.

I'm not saying that is what Vitality did, but you can't win with an argument that

Crackers obviously don't release cracks that don't work at all.

Truth is, that is EXACTLY what they have done, and more than once this week in fact. However, they did correct the Soulstorm issue as well as another. This one they haven't fixed yet.

Peace.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Having a specific version of Windows on your PC really is a configuration issue. (Remember cracks that worked only on Windows XP but not on Windows 2000, while the original game officially supported both. The expression "configuration" might not be appropriate in this case but, you see, neither is "not at all".)

Also, if you think that professional crackers are visiting this forum and will listen to you complaints... well...

[simdude]

I managed to try it out on Win Vista 32 as well.

This is what I found:

>> on Win XP SP2 - it doesn't work no matter what I do. Kick it, curse it, throw the computer out the window, it just won't work.
>> on Win Vista 32 - it works.

The Vista however does pop up a window saying due to an issue with Vista and video memory you may need to install this update http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=940105 before it lets you play. You need to hit OK to dismiss the popup window and the game kicks in. But that might deppend on your hardware configuration, wether or not you get the notice.

Now, that doesn't help me since I use Win XP on my computer, but if others want to try it out, have Vista for this crack.

At least they should mention it's for Vista only when they put it out.

[FM-Staalker]

I wasn't complaining about the crack. I also know that the crackers don't read the board. However, as I said, others should know it doesn't work...also, word DOES get back to the crack team. Other cracks they have released and then fixed later proves it. It may not come from THIS site, but it does happen.

[BarryB]

Do you have KB917422 installed? That caused some games to fail if I recall!

If SP2 is up to date though it may have been updated so that point is moot!

[acal3000]

Microsuucks put so many padlocks on Vista than locked it's own users. I have lots seen Linux Distros more easy to get access premission that on that user get root than pile of crap OS. In terms of gamming more games once that could get install andt he installer didn't those stupid problems installing for the need on an admin account when really was an admin account for me generally worked well. I didn't see so many compatibity problems with games like for example from 98 ot XP before the service packs. Of course there was some on my collection that didn' wokedon vista but other worked better than xp did for me. But in other terms the OS piece of scrap. Lots of BSOsds. Some games that didn't validate the original cd when I was really putting the original cd until I used no cd cracks when on Xp did it. Some other when try to validate the cd just did BSOD and restarted.until used no cd too One time some guy i know bring his computer to fix some things. He accidentally put in the startup some utilty from windows for people with disabilites he course didn't need and slowndowd the computer . The easy on XP was just renamming file (coz i couldn t find in msconfig.exe and services in administrative tool to quit from starttup) but this Vista thing has now some thing called ownership in of it's system files that didn't let me rename the nasty program even you are the admin of the system. I had to boot in safe mode use some ridiculus command in the dos mode just to the the ownwership of that file and rename it. Man when i saw that I felt like M$ though were the owner of our own machines: Man I just dumped that crap and moved to Linux. I can't play many play games as can do Windows of course. But lots more stable no BSODs no restarts installing any stupid program coz registry crap. The perfomance is better when watching videosl/listen music or opening a lot of programs like that crap of windows media player . I don't need to downlad a bunch of codecs just to get flvs video work or other formats. I can modify a bunch of things internally that bunch M$ idiots don't let coz it's closed source and customize more what I want.I guess one of downfalls of Vista was that slow development in all: Took ages get released (more than 5 years). IE7 took too to much, started other web standards in other browsers (like Firefox or Opera) that made look iE as thing of the past. Direct X10 it's time you can't yet lots games programmed for it. Those guys neeed to not the delay the service pack1 more If they don't want more people downgrade from Vista to XP coz I know several that have done that. i mean it seems going to be released on April. if not maybe they will give themselves with foot again if there is another delay. And even with the Service pack sure will a lot to fix. I read on some news that the new beta SP made things fast but made slow others. But well can't be atken as still a final result since it's still not finished

[-HeX-]

No luck in XP SP2 with all the windows updates installed here

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by acal3000

Microsuucks put so many padlocks on Vista than locked it's own users. I have lots seen Linux Distros more easy to get access premission that on that user get root than pile of crap OS. In terms of gamming more games once that could get install andt he installer didn't those stupid problems installing for the need on an admin account when really was an admin account for me generally worked well. I didn't see so many compatibity problems with games like for example from 98 ot XP before the service packs. Of course there was some on my collection that didn' wokedon vista but other worked better than xp did for me. But in other terms the OS piece of scrap. Lots of BSOsds. Some games that didn't validate the original cd when I was really putting the original cd until I used no cd cracks when on Xp did it. Some other when try to validate the cd just did BSOD and restarted.until used no cd too One time some guy i know bring his computer to fix some things. He accidentally put in the startup some utilty from windows for people with disabilites he course didn't need and slowndowd the computer . The easy on XP was just renamming file (coz i couldn t find in msconfig.exe and services in administrative tool to quit from starttup) but this Vista thing has now some thing called ownership in of it's system files that didn't let me rename the nasty program even you are the admin of the system. I had to boot in safe mode use some ridiculus command in the dos mode just to the the ownwership of that file and rename it. Man when i saw that I felt like M$ though were the owner of our own machines: Man I just dumped that crap and moved to Linux. I can't play many play games as can do Windows of course. But lots more stable no BSODs no restarts installing any stupid program coz registry crap. The perfomance is better when watching videosl/listen music or opening a lot of programs like that crap of windows media player . I don't need to downlad a bunch of codecs just to get flvs video work or other formats. I can modify a bunch of things internally that bunch M$ idiots don't let coz it's closed source and customize more what I want.I guess one of downfalls of Vista was that slow development in all: Took ages get released (more than 5 years). IE7 took too to much, started other web standards in other browsers (like Firefox or Opera) that made look iE as thing of the past. Direct X10 it's time you can't yet lots games programmed for it. Those guys neeed to not the delay the service pack1 more If they don't want more people downgrade from Vista to XP coz I know several that have done that. i mean it seems going to be released on April. if not maybe they will give themselves with foot again if there is another delay. And even with the Service pack sure will a lot to fix. I read on some news that the new beta SP made things fast but made slow others. But well can't be atken as still a final result since it's still not finished

argghhhhhhhh my eyes! they burn at the large paragraph!

hehehe :P

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by FM-Staalker

In addition, many of the cracking crews these days don't have the games they crack for. They just open the executes and remove the protection code. You can do that without ever opening the game up. Problem is, when something goes wrong...like this case...you don't know it until you release it and hear about it.

Impossible.

It would be like looking for the preverbial needle in the large haystack.

[0_0_7]

I installed the game on my Desktop - with both Systems just for testing.

On XP Pro SP2 = no go
On Vista 32 Bit Ultimate = runs without any problems!

By the way, the Microsoft Patch 94105 is a important patch for Vista with nVidia GPUs, so you should install it.

Greetings, 007