Command & Conquer 3 - Retail Trainer

[Grumpy]

Take it easy guys, lets keep it civil please.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Caliber

interesting. well people can look at the two all they want and see for themselves that my trainer has nothing to do with theirs.

now is my trainer perfect or does it even work correctly? well it appears so to me, but others will have to let me know feedback if there are problems or suggestions. i can't always do what people ask or fix some problems but i try-

best,
Cal

I didnt say it was.

I said there was a way to check.

[TippeX]

the thing with the securom code is securom routinely crc's areas etc, so patching areas can result in strange shit happening, thats what i meant..
i guess if it all works the securom level used on the exe was low...
and i understand securom and coding very very very much
and it may be a coincidence the trainer has the same options as the razor one...or it may not, which is why i brought it up.. if you insist you didnt copy it then fine, matter closed.. the only person who will know is you (unless we check the razor code against yours...).. so yeh as grumpy says lets keep it civil, as for feedback, i actually did use your demo trainer with the demo, worked fine, as for the retail exe, i used the razor one.. also worked fine..
game didnt quite live up to my expectations, but thats another story..

[sheep]

sometimes it really amuses me the amount of shit spoken on some forums.. tippex, what benefit would securom have for crc'ing areas of code that have absolutely NOTHING!!! to do with its own protection? if you have come across a game where securom crcs code pertinent to a trainer maker i would LOVE!! for you to post the title.. apart from reversing many copy protection routines in my years for educational challenges ive also created countless trainers and not one!!! didnt work on an original SECUROM protected game up until and including C&C3.. the only reported problems that a trainer doesnt work on an original has come from titles protected with TAGES and as such an EXPERT!! im sure you can tell me why?? now either provide some proof of ur knowledge (and i dont mean half assed comments like "SECUROM MUST USE LIGHT PROTECTION ON THAT EXE") or fucking shutup.

EDIT: razor make SHIT!! trainers.. (THE RAZOR RLSING NOW) why would he bother copying a razor trainer when he could easily have copied mine which pisses all over the razor rls. (the razor of NOW isnt the razor of yesteryear) when my friends rlsed trainers for razor they were respectful PROPER trainers.. not some rushed out rls..

[Joe Forster/STA]

Guys, I would LOVE to listen to discussion of copy protection internals but 1) not in this thread (it's off-topic here; let's open a new one instead) and 2) not in this kind of tone. Thanks!

[sheep]

yeah, sorry.. i assumed the forum had a filter for bad language.. didnt realise it would be displayed.. just tired of idiots shouting about something they clearly know little to nothing about..

"In the land of the blind the one eye man is king".. and morons take full advantage of this.. they read little bits or have a friend who actually has talent who tell them little bits here and there and when they come onto these forums seeing that the majority are noobs looking for trainers or cracks think they can spread a few words about protections and show off to the masses, when really anyone with any ACTUAL experience or knoweldge can spot them a mile away because their vague statements and complete rubbish dribble is mainstream and used by hundreds of other idiots..

a few reasons i know tippex is full of shite.

a real cracker who CAN crack these protections for one doesnt start dropping hints on a forum for TRAINERS.. (thats an easy one..)

and here comes the crunch!!

a REAL cracker with securom EXPERIENCE!! would know that the likelyhood of securom actually crcing the CORE sections of code that trainer makers tackle every day is so remote its just NOT worth mentioning it as a reason to think someone HAD to remove it first, this knowledge ONLY!! comes from experience.. if you know SECUROM crc's code (erm.. i think even the brainless would assume one of securoms facets would be crcing) without the experience of actually working on it you would EASILY (as tippex has done) fall into the trap of thinking that it crcs these areas..

THATS why i feel a need to post.. i dont mean to offend anyone apart from the poeople who take OTHERS for morons.

[Sabreslight]

um...yea i happen to have the v1.02 trainer and i don't know if its just me but it makes the game unbearably slow it works but i cant play with it being all slow like it is currently and also it happens to work after i close the trainer out

[TippeX]

sheep.. read your pm, and back down. please
as for securom crcing stuff... remember hitman?

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by sheep

"SECUROM MUST USE LIGHT PROTECTION ON THAT EXE") or fucking shutup.

EDIT: razor make SHIT!! trainers..

a few reasons i know tippex is full of shite.

This is sheep being nice :P

You should see what its like when hes angry and turning green....

[quorn23]

Thanks Caliber for the trainer, like i wrote in the stalkerthread i will try out your c&c3 trainer. I use the newest one for 1.02
It works fine, no problems over here
(well one little problem, once a ai player builded 4000 units, made the skimirsh unplayable slow, but i think you can't do anything about that, never saw a instandbuild trainer for older c&cs where only player got instandbuild)
Now, my question would be, are you planning to add more options, and if yes what kind of options? I think the game sucks (its the same like c&c always was) so if there are some funny option i would have a reason to play it again.

[sheep]

yeah, sorry about the attack on u tippex.. my bad.. sometimes there is a fine line between being vague and not wanting to let people know the whole story.. hope this makes up for my bullshit.. take it easy matey..


dabhand.. hehe.. nice to see ur alive and well.. hope ur shop is doing well, we miss u around the irc camp fire.. im not there much myself these days.. but i dont see u making many trainers either.. u really need to get back into it.. the scene is a sad place without characters like urself.. take care brother..

quorn23.. check out the CHEATHAPPENS.COM c&c3 trainer.. if you dont want to pay for it just wait a while and its rlsed to the public.. ill be adding a few new options to it aswell.. including TELEPORT UNITS, MIND CONTROL ENEMY (u can tell them where to go, sending them all to 1 waypoint or individual ones if you wish) and also working on something that will enable you to position your defence turret RADIUS anywhere you like.. so even if they are in ur base you can move their firing arc into the enemy base and watch them mow down the eney as they come out of the barracks.. thats pretty funny to watch

neways.. take it easy people.. hope i didnt cause too much fuss posting.. ill be less intense in future..

[DABhand]

Yeah I missed you too sheep, was in last night talking to Whitey.

Just like what he said, the scene is really gone, shame really. Plus my shop takes precedence. Perhaps one day I will come back

[steviewilson]

Is it possible to get an invincible option or weaken the enemy or something? I cant get past Act V 1st part Berne (teleport across the chasm) pullin whats left of my hair out!!

Stevie

Sorry should have said it is act V Rome, Destroy Three Alien Phase Generators section I cant get past.

Stevie

[apache-]

can i have an option for unlimited bacon and cheese toasties with unlimted reloads on my cup of tea please

[Caliber]

the only options i am working on are no-fog-of-war and make units invincible. sheep and i had discussions on this in the past and his take is that it is better to enable the user to select the units individually to make them invincible rather than a global invincibility option for your entire team. what does everyone think of this?

also, i thought i had coded this better but is everyone saying that the enemy gets instant build, too? if so, then i need to re-look at this. i did not think that this was the case-

also, is the add money and set energy to 0 options affecting the enemy as well?

so i might be a little busy beaver here shortly.

also there is a patch 1.03

i wish EA would stop this, it's ridiculous-

best,
Cal