Rise And Fall: CaW - Starforce 3.7

[neptun]

I have problems with this game.The way i used for POP T2T and Toca 3 ( nforce 4 MB + sata harddrives + disable pata controller , mount and play ) is not working anymore.The starforce version is 3.7.16.4. I noticed that the message displayed by starforce is always "Failed to identify the disc".This message is displayed even if the controller is not disabled.The previous starforce versions gave message "Insert disc in other drive" right after double clicking on the game .exe file in this case and the mounted image was not even checked.Now with this version it looks like the mounted image is always checked ( no matter if there is real drives connected to the system or not ).I am not sure what exactly is the reason for that but i have some ideas:

1. Wrong DPM info ( bad .mds fle ).Possible but not very likely.I used the same hardware ( NEC 3540 ) and software ( Latest alcohol ) and settings ( dpm high and low extraction speed ) that worked fine for POP T2T and TOCA 3.

2. Some new kind of blacklisting that prevents alcohol and daemon tools 4.0.3 ( i tried with both of them ) to emulate correctly the disc topology.


I can't test with unplugging of the optical drives now so if somebody can make this test please tell us if it is working.If anyone managed to make working backup of this game please tell me how you managed to do that.

[neptun]

Update: It looks like with this version of starforce it is not possible to use virtual drive and image.Currently neither daemon tools nor alcohol can cheat this newest version of starforce.

[BarryB]

Just use the original DVD for now, this version of SF blacklists DT4 and mini images.

[ghiurutan]

(for better view use CTRL+A or Save Picture As... )

[neptun]

I know about this way but i don't have discs with some of this mediacodes right now.Thank you for trying to help me.I wonder which is the reason discs with this mediacodes to work and if this hole i nthe protection will be filled soon.

[bob_geldof]

wish a no cd would be made for this shaprish, Iam to dumb to do my own and constent cd change is *yawn

[Grumpy]

@bob_geldof

wish a no cd would be made for this

*yawn! Not as big a 'yawn' as hearing requests for NoCD's all the time! *yawn!

[bob_geldof]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

@bob_geldof

*yawn! Not as big a 'yawn' as hearing requests for NoCD's all the time! *yawn!

holy moley never seen such a username more fitting.

[Grumpy]

holy moley never seen such a username more fitting.

holy moley Ive never been asked a more boring question! Same thing day in day out! *yawn*
And Grumpy by name but not normally by nature.

Btw, like what you did in the 80's with Live Aid, pity you couldnt get the Beatles to play tho!

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Ive highlighted in red the part concerning your post.

[bob_geldof]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

holy moley Ive never been asked a more boring question! Same thing day in day out! *yawn*
And Grumpy by name but not normally by nature.

Btw, like what you did in the 80's with Live Aid, pity you couldnt get the Beatles to play tho!

EDIT: A reminder for you of one of the Forum Rules here:



Ive highlighted in red the part concerning your post.

how considerate....

as for beatles i tried dam yoko in the way again.

[Proton911]

Peoples , try do this , read DVD at minimum speed and than mount image with disabled cd/dvd writers/readers with newest Daemon version 4.0.3 .
Heh, pitty i don`t have time to test if its work but somebody should try :-)

[neptun]

The problem is that daemon tools and alcohol are both blacklisted in this version of starforce.So mounting will no work.Only burning to some discs with certain mediacodes will work.

[Nightmare]

Does this method (burning on DVD+RW) also work for other games?
For example SpellForce 2, Prince of Persia TTT etc.

Greets

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Nightmare

Does this method (burning on DVD+RW) also work for other games?
For example SpellForce 2, Prince of Persia TTT etc.

Greets

If you mean "running in normal IDE drives", yes, but only for titles protected with SF 3.7.16.x or those patched to that version.
e.g. for Spellforce 2 + RfB try RICOHJPNW11
Blazing Angels + Rise&Fall* try PHILIPS 041/DAXON D42 (all titles german version, other version maybe other pressings)

* DTM3 is same pressing, but not patched to 3.7.16, yet

[Morglum007]

www.cdsteam.org

See first notice. At botton u will find brand media with its media code for SF to verify disc.

In spanish, but who knows....

[Edit by Joe Forster/STA: use http://babelfish.altavista.com for translating web pages...]

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