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Old 11-12-2005, 20:37
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You can disable it in the device manager IF you have no hard drives on the same IDE controller (eg if you have a SATA HDD) - Disabling the drive doesn't work, but disabling the IDE controller to which it's connected will.

Also, if you're having trouble getting it working, make sure you're using the right CD key... I think the European DVD version and the US 3CD version require different keys.

On a related note... Starforce protection is also preventing a gore patch for the European version. Outside the US, dismemberment is removed from the game, and the difference is in the game exe. But Starforce prevents you from changing the exe. I've got the US exe, but until I have the US versions of...
-The Starforce exe
-The Starforce dll
-The CD key
-An image/mini-image of the US play disc
...I can't work this out.

PS. With my IDE controller disabled, the DVD image mounted in DT4 with NO emulation, and NO Starforce blockers running, the game starts fine.

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Old 11-12-2005, 21:11
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make sure you're using the right CD key
You should be using the CDkey that came with your original game!?
Please dont discuss CD Keys here, asking for CD keys is against forum rules, and technically this is what you are asking for but in a round about way!
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Old 11-12-2005, 21:22
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Sorry... Not asking for one - as I said, I've got the game working fine.

Just thought I'd mention it, as it's something that came up while trying to enable gore in the EU version.
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Old 11-12-2005, 21:49
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When I find out a game is edited, I return it to the shop and tell them exactly why I am returning it. I tell them it is an edited version and as an adult I expected a game that is not edited.
I then contact a friend in the US and he purchases the game for me and posts it over. Yes it takes longer to get the game but at least I end up with the 'full' game as it was meant to be.
Until Australia changes some gaming laws, and brings in an 18+ classification then we are always going to get edited games.
Did you realize that Halflife 2 was very nearly stopped from being released here! This is because most other country have a 17+ rating on it and our rating system only caters for 15+. So if a game is not suitable for under 15 year olds then it wont be released.
Australia may be a great country in a lot of ways but we are very behind in some things.

P.S: I also have a good friend who owns the local game shop here and he can also import games from the US for me, but in most cases it is actually cheaper for me to buy them from my friend in the US. And yes I do realize I can buy it over the net (like ebay) but if you have friend in other countries you may as well make the best of it.
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Old 13-12-2005, 02:00
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You can disable it in the device manager IF you have no hard drives on the same IDE controller (eg if you have a SATA HDD) - Disabling the drive doesn't work, but disabling the IDE controller to which it's connected will.

Also, if you're having trouble getting it working, make sure you're using the right CD key... I think the European DVD version and the US 3CD version require different keys.

On a related note... Starforce protection is also preventing a gore patch for the European version. Outside the US, dismemberment is removed from the game, and the difference is in the game exe. But Starforce prevents you from changing the exe. I've got the US exe, but until I have the US versions of...
-The Starforce exe
-The Starforce dll
-The CD key
-An image/mini-image of the US play disc
...I can't work this out.

PS. With my IDE controller disabled, the DVD image mounted in DT4 with NO emulation, and NO Starforce blockers running, the game starts fine.

Why would you have the US .exe?


Do you actually have the original?
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Old 13-12-2005, 03:34
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Sorry, I should say I obtained the US .exe, as I'm looking for a way to uncensor the EU version.

I also recently got a hold of the US Starforce files (amir.exe and amir.dll), so when (if ?) a mini-image of the US version is released, I'll hopefully be able to work something out.

EDIT: I've never heard this said explicitly, but I got the impression from some people that my CD key will only work with my CD. Is this true? I used to wonder years ago why they didn't do this, and eventually decided that
a) It would greatly complicate the manufacturing procedure if every disc was different, and
b) It could turn into a logistical nightmare trying to get every CD into the right box
- one tiny little mixup, and the next 50,000 discs end up in the wrong box, shipped with a useless CD key...

If they've actually managed to pull this off, I'm absolutely amazed...
But if this is the case, wouldn't the correct CD key need to be included with the mini-image, which would make this fix illegal and see it removed from almost any site immediately?

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Old 13-12-2005, 08:52
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keep us posted, ok? I'm quite disappointed with the censorship, too
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Old 13-12-2005, 10:28
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As far as I remember, there were posts about how the Starforce CD-keys are related to the CD and the information (how reliable? assumptions? no idea!) went that batches of CD's are burnt with the same burnt-onto-CD key and in-the-box key.

As for being so cryptic about those Starforce duplicator tools, that's pretty nonsense. I'm quite sure the Starforce developers already have them and are working on defeating them in an upcoming version of their copy protection. or
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Old 13-12-2005, 15:35
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Ahh, didn't think of that... batches would be far more practical.
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keep us posted, ok? I'm quite disappointed with the censorship, too
Will do, but I'm no hacker... I'm confident I can get this working just by replacing the stuff I listed before, but to patch the EU version, you will need a US key. So even if I do get it working, I will not be able to distribute a (fully functional) version of the "patch" (if you can even call it that ).

EDIT: I presume it would be just as illegal to inject the working key straight into the registry, correct? I think I spotted my CD key in there while I was looking for a region-related key...

And by the way, can even ONE person vouch for that Keelman mini-image?

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Old 13-12-2005, 23:30
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I'm confident I can get this working just by replacing the stuff I listed before, but to patch the EU version, you will need a US key. So even if I do get it working, I will not be able to distribute a (fully functional) version of the "patch" (if you can even call it that ).
you sure about that? I mean, after SF drivers have authorized your SFkey can't you just replace the files? Or they require authorization again? And is it really necessary to match US .exe with US SF files?

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EDIT: I presume it would be just as illegal to inject the working key straight into the registry, correct? I think I spotted my CD key in there while I was looking for a region-related key...
yeah, it's in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\UBISOFT\POP3\Keys

um, I think you can just put it in there...

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And by the way, can even ONE person vouch for that Keelman mini-image?
I've seen it recognized by the system as a blank CD :7
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hi i have installed POP 3 in my PC when i clik on play it says pls insert correct disk i have downloaded mini image from gamecopyworld.com and disconnected my DVD/rw from PC what have to do more in this pls reply me fast
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