CRACKs missing.... What's happening with the latest games???

[EXECUTOR]

CRACKs missing.... What's happening with the latest games???

in the last month many games have been published and no-CD cracks are available (as of now), and they are not StarForce(123) protected:

MotoGP UTR 3
EA Madden NFL 2006
EA NHL 2006
Advent Rising

plus some 'old' big titles SF(123) games (last 6 to 8 months) aren't cracked (NoCD) even if some group cracked some SF(123) games (see 'ultima' releases):

Splinter Cell - Chaos Theory
Trackmania Sunrise

some good (or big titles) that released important (for playbility) patches are also without a crack, comes to mind DRIV3R 3

I think that the CRACK scene needs more man(brain)power and there's a new trend inverted trend, we have to support CRACKs programmers in some ways....

post your comments!!!

[kosmiq]

A big part of the problem might be that many games are pretty hard to make general NoCD's for. A fixed .exe is often more easy to do.

Also remember that for the scene it is a race and a NoCD might require extra work and can lead to a lost race.

The starforce version used by Splinter Cell is still uncracked and I think it will be for a long time to come. But I still have hope that Starforce will one day be defeated and thus no longer be the Ultimate Protection and therefore no longer used by publishers...

Supporting crackers will be very hard to do as these people are very often hunted by the different groups as the FBI, RIAA and so on. So any connection to their real-life names would make them easy to catch.

[glenbo]

yeh i noticed to,i check back everyday for months and some never get done..maybe they are hard to do i dunno,but i tried to back up moto gp 3 the other day and had to use this program like the anti-star force ones called blax or something,and i hate all that. i go as far as mini images and cracks,but as soon as it comes to messing around with drives and hacking your own registry i give up.

im not actually trying to make back ups,im just trying to run my game without the disc cos my tower is in a locked cabinet to stop my kids messing with it and its a nightmare unlocking it everytime i wanan change disc..so i like the lazy way :P

[Pigdog Ratsnake]

I think we won't be seeing any NoCDs in the future. It's going to come down to emulation. The encryption schemes Starforce uses cannot be cracked, but if Starforce thinks its accessing the original disc/data, there is no need to crack the encryption.

[glenbo]

then maybe its all down to dvd-r media and good burning software..maybe alcohol 120% might have a little trick up its sleeve...or then maybe not,its become so commercial in the last year it dosent look good.

[TippeX]

the reason is because of the recent busts, of the flt people (fastlink) and the hlm (and others), that cut down the amount of crackers, and the new blood now dont seem up to the task, the protections are also getting tougher, thats the reason..

because of the busts a lot of other crackers (they are a very small amount of people..perhaps 20 or so 'professional' ones.. the ones who were in ims, flt, rzr, dev and so on) who didnt get busted retired because they saw what happened to the others that did and retired... losing all your equipment, ontop of legal fees, dealing with the police and so on is no laughing matter, be grateful for what you got from them, they did it for nothing, they made nothing from it and they paid the price for others that sold their work

oh and the encryption schemes starforce uses can be broken, dont believe all the hype, anythings breakable, it just requires skill.. that skill however is held in a small amount of people, who really dont give two ****s (especially after being busted) about your 'needs' for cracks anymore


just my opinion

[crnelyone]

well cracking is difficult. But it seems like the game companys finally have won the war. 3 years ago i'd have said yo can get a crack for every game and the following patches for it. But now, Starforce and all that ****. You can't even burn them anymore. Remember when CloneCD was able to copy every damn copy protected game? Thos times are over. And the time of no-cd cracks also :-(

You know why i use no-cd? Becaus it makes life easier. You don't have to search the game-box in you cupboard. you don't have to lay in the damn disc. It takes round 1-2 Minutes. So i just download a no-cd and that takes me 1time 5 minutes. And for the rest of my life i don't need the cd (only for patches etc.)

But those things like Star****, Daemon-Tools+Mini image
Are just ****! It takes 5minutes to set them up correctly EVER time you want to play (and hell we know there aren't even mini-images for some games).

So it's easier for me to take the damn disc and have the loud cd-rom making stupid noises decreasing my fun while playing.

oh and for the "scene" with their releases i see only this possibility:
get many new crackers to help out.
OR
Invest your time in developing the ultimate cd-burning software.
as we all know from your .nfo's you buy your games so just stop making isos but make images who can be burned with your new coded burn-software and which copy-protection will recognise as original!

By doing the first version you will please those like me who buy their games but hate inserting the disc.
By doing the second version you will please the kiddies and show the game industry that they are fu****

[Tony22]

nocdcracks will always be ,just be patient and wait for the profs just to inform you EA NHL 2006 nocdcrack is available nogrp release .

[ByteMare]

Or you could work your way up to the top by learning to crack the stuff you
need...

[glenbo]

ppl seem to think that because crack groups are not intrested any more that we are done for....not the case atall,there will be 1000 groups in the future..ppl learning the same way those groups did,it is not rocket science,the best thing for crack groups now is to stop competing..and share there knowledge more openly and all will be sweet

[TippeX]

nice little dream world you live in glenbo... it is a science, it takes skill, time and dedication and especially now with all the legal changes regarding reverse engineering i really dont think your idea of 1000 groups etc really holds much validity... as for groups sharing information, the precise reason groups dont share information is so that their methods / tricks / whatever aren't circumvented by the next version of the protection... ever wondered why there are very few (if any) public dumper/rebuilders available for removing protection?

[glenbo]

lol so you are saying the current groups of crackers are going to be the only crackers ever? no matter difficultys,secrecy there will always be crackers/hackers or anything else to do with the shady world of internet nerds,because kids are becoming more clever year by year,they will sit back in a few years and laugh at our primative @ss's,you guys act like the current crop are the be all and end all. not so,if you believe that then you may aswell give up now. my only point was that they should stop there petty wars with each other and concentrate on there wars with authoritys and gameing protection etc. why have 10 pretty groups when you can have 1 exellent one? why? because people are to competitve and competition causes delay in this respect.
so no im not in a dream world,im in reality,meet me there when you find it.

[Luciel]

Right glembo, you know more than everyone here, whatever, aniways, tottally out of topic, moved to chit chat as its not about a specific crack.

[ByteMare]

Ever tried to reverse a decent protection in a serious way? When done and having a nice "generic tool" (if possible) coded you really like to use it for a while instead of doing the whole session over again...it not getting easier and as I've pointed out a number of times before: The more info you give to the "public" the sooner the company get their dirty little hands on it and...yeah...expect a "update patch" coming out real soon...try your tool then...oh no! It's not working anymore! It can't do shít! All your unpacking/import fixing/API-stuff/rebuilding routines are worthless and you're back to day 1 again That's why ppl should learn the stuff from the basics, not put all their hopes in "automatic unwrappers" and the groups.

Nuff said

[TippeX]

no, what im saying is that there will be less crackers now who will release things publically because of the current changes in the law... would you be willing to risk losing all your kit and spending up to 3+ years in prison, as well as having to pay legal fees for your defence, and being sued by the bsa and so on just to release a crack so that the public can benefit from it? its far far too risky, think about it a little, look at the history of what happened over the years with the busts etc and now ask yourself why there are less cracks now than before