The Secret of the Lost Cavern - Completely new copy-protection

[Grumpy]

But we have the full version from deviance with *******. demo-EXE,

I dont have this game so therefore I have had no reason to download the crack but I just presumed he meant he has the Deviance so called 'Full Version Crack' but the exe in the crack is from the 'demo'??

@Dabhand

but I dont mean to come out and say this, your not on the same level as me.

But you came out and said it anyway? I also know you are very knowledgable but I dont know why you intentionally try to elevate yourself to a so called higher position than others? You seem smarter than that? I am not trying to flame you Dab I just cant understand your motives or answers sometimes?

[Joe Forster/STA]

Yeah, I'm not on the same level as DABhand. I already found the "Ignore List" feature of this forum a few months ago and not having to read his posts - except when quoted in a reply, that is - definitely saves me a lot of time and annoyance. It is nice to see, though, that he still keeps assuming things without even trying to find proofs for.

[JRaiven]

Originally Posted by eye2eye

It is no patch to play the game to the end, for this you must patch
the script-file, but this is a little bit more complex to tell here.
I posted the savegames to gcw, maybe this helps some of you.

Hi! eye2eye, could you explain as modifying the script-file? please, I would like to learn more.. hehe

Thanx

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I dont have this game so therefore I have had no reason to download the crack but I just presumed he meant he has the Deviance so called 'Full Version Crack' but the exe in the crack is from the 'demo'??

@Dabhand

But you came out and said it anyway? I also know you are very knowledgable but I dont know why you intentionally try to elevate yourself to a so called higher position than others? You seem smarter than that? I am not trying to flame you Dab I just cant understand your motives or answers sometimes?

Its the fact that Joe again decides to attack me on the forum, when I havent even talked to him in a long time. That annoys me.

He can have me on the ignore list all he wants. But if he decides to flame me again out the of the blue I wont be happy about it.

Its an old saying grumpy, "I dont mean to say it" something like "I didnt want to say it but I told you so" the same idea.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I dont have this game so therefore I have had no reason to download the crack but I just presumed he meant he has the Deviance so called 'Full Version Crack' but the exe in the crack is from the 'demo'??

Forgot to say about this. If he had the "full version" crack and was a demo, why did he say Full Version, and not just demo exe.

[eye2eye]

Ok Kids,
calm down or as we say in germany 'keep your balls on the ground' .
Seems that emotions boiling here a little bit too high.
Nobody wants to harm anybody.
If I did so, I throw my body on the ground, on my knees
I lick your shoes, I pray for pardon, forgive a dishonorable
and unworthy servant.
And last but not least, nobody among us has time to waste with
such a s.h.i.t. discussion. All we want - is a tech-talk
about a not working program.
Nobody talks here about C.R.A.C.K.S. or W.A.R.E.Z., we all
have the concerning program legally bought.
But we all have the problem that our dogs have eaten
the 2nd disc and now we have dl some files from somewhere
and want them working.
Agreed?

First step was done, now we want to talk about the
remaining probs.
The interface problems:
a) Painted stone in inventory is not usable
b) Objects are not usable among each other, so
second torche can't be lit with one, no melody
can be played with musical stones and hammer, fresquos
could not be finished or painted

My approach was to modify the action-script. But that's
a cheap trick not worthy among experts like we are.

Did anybody out there looked in the code and found
a correspondig offset for this?

[JRaiven]

no melody
can be played with musical stones and hammer

I'm in fact blocked there!! there is not solution?

[eye2eye]

but that is not our goal, we want a fully functional prog (I guess I give up trying to make a serious discussion here, shaking head)...

For all script kiddies:
- play 'til the bison-puzzle, the one after talking and eating with the man at the fire (big fresquo with bull on the rock)
- in front of the puzzle, do NOT click on the fresquo, but make a savegame
- leave program
- goto to <gamedir>\datas\cd1
- open file "cmn_cmn.bf" (the one with 26mb) in hex-editor
- when you have the CD1, there is no need to make file-backup, otherwise
make one
- search for the string: >>WARP_1 script file for level "PRJ\riviere.lvl"<<
(the complete string between >>..<<)
- you'll find the following:
...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- WARP_1 script file for level "PRJ\riviere.lvl", decor "Riviere", stage "Warp_1"
-- Generated by Level Editor on 07/09/2004 09:06:41
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WARP_1=
{ --Init function
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Initialize = function()

InitRiviere( WARP_1.this )
WARP_1.evt = 0

if ( eMastermind==1 )
then
SetNotifyZone("ZoneBisons", 0)

if ( bAbriDecouvertB==0 )
then
SetNotifyZone("ZoneSignes", 1)
else
SetNotifyZone("ZoneSignes", 0)
end
else
SetNotifyZone("ZoneBisons", 1)
SetNotifyZone("ZoneSignes", 0)
end

WARP_1.InterfaceMusicaleOff()

eMastermindHit = {}
eMastermindHit[1] = 0
eMastermindHit[2] = 0
eMastermindHit[3] = 0
eMastermindHit[4] = 0
eMastermindState = 0

WARP_1.MastermindReset()

if ( ePierreMusicale5==1 )
then
-- Basedoc
EnableNewCards( {56}, 56, 1 )
--
end
end,

--UnInit function
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UnInitialize = function ()
...
- change the following (just overwrite the bytes, do not shift or hazzle any bytes):
1.)
WARP_1.evt = 0
to
WARP_1.evt = 6

2.)
eMastermindHit = {}
eMastermindHit[1] = 0
eMastermindHit[2] = 0
eMastermindHit[3] = 0
eMastermindHit[4] = 0
eMastermindState = 0
to
eMastermind = 1 --}
eMastermindHit[1] = 5
eMastermindHit[2] = 3
eMastermindHit[3] = 6
eMastermindHit[4] = 2
eMastermindState = 4

3.)
WARP_1.MastermindReset()
to
ePierreMusicale5 = 1 --)

- save this, exit hex-ed.
- start game
- load savegame with bison puzzle
- look at fresquo, click on it (arok speaks...)
- go left
- look at the 2nd fresquo (arok speaks again)
- yippeeyeah, the entrance to the dwelling is open
- directly besides the river
- make new savegame
- leave game
- change "cmn_cmn.bf" with original one from cd or backup
- start again
- load last savegame and play on...
thats it!

dont ask for further script-patches, I hate this s.h.i.t.

[GLH]

Originally Posted by eye2eye

...we all have the concerning program legally bought. But we all have the problem that our dogs have eaten the 2nd disc and now we have dl some files from somewhere...

Originally Posted by eye2eye

- when you have the CD1, there is no need to make file-backup, otherwise make one...

I think you should read the BOARD RULES (again) !!!
[Particularly board rule #3]

[Luciel]

i think it's time to close this, i'll leave it up to you glh since you gave the warning.

[Grumpy]

Just before this gets closed

@Dabhand

But we have the full version from deviance with F******. demo-EXE,

After reading this again, I am inclined to agree with you. I now believe he is saying he has the Full Deviance Version of the game but that Full Deviance Version only has the 'Demo' exe on it! He is saying the game does not have the proper full version exe included.
Sometime the way people write things it is hard to pick up exactly what they mean. Maybe they write this way on purpose?

Ok, now this thread can be closed!

[DABhand]

Yeah Grumpy says thread has to be closed now :P

[JRaiven]

eye2eye, Work!!

Thanx!!

[wildwing]

hi!
maybe u can help me
http://www.fileforums.com/showthread...1&page=2&pp=15

what hex editor u used?


thnx

[JRaiven]

This... or this...

This program allows to edit files of huge size.