GLH........please read.......graphics card stuff

[maciozo]

Originally Posted by GLH

Resolution: 1024x768@60Hz

Holy crap, do you have artificial eyes

[kosmiq]

In my world there is a law that says "overclock or die"..... :P
But anyway maybe it is the time to stay on topic... GLH do your thing and answer those posts...

[GLH]

Originally Posted by maciozo

Holy crap, do you have artificial eyes

I read in the monitor-manual 1280x1024@60Hz is the optimal setting. In a forum i read, when the TFT is connected via DVI there's no difference between 60Hz and 75Hz.

[DABhand]

I have to use 75hz for a sharper screen.


To Kosmiq, dont presume I dont know about overclocking, I own a PC shop, I know what the industry is all about.

But....

You are correct that CPU's have been downgraded in speeds although same components. BUT, there is a reason why they run at speeds they have been set.

You get a 1700 and 2800 XP chip, open it up I assure you it is NOT the same chips (if you have a strong enough microscope). The high end XP's come with extra resistors, etc. Which helps them work smoothly with high voltages which is set for their speed.


As soon as you overclock from the moment you switch on your PC, stress factors over your cpu is causing it degrade very slowly or a bit quicker depending on how high the OC is.

Eventually even if OC'd slightly the damage builds and builds. Not only will your CPU be damaged, but it can damage other components in your PC, memory being one as its being stretched to cope with the increase in CPU speed/voltage.


I dont care about normal OC'ers. its the ones who have to sell their faulty hardware later on to unsuspecting people, thats what pisses me off.

What pisses me off more, is when the little idiots come to my shop and try to act like they know more than I do. I have a simple answer to that.

"If you were so bloody good, how come your PC is in here then?"

Sorry but I find people who OC, are arrogant and think they know things when they dont really.

[maciozo]

Originally Posted by GLH

I read in the monitor-manual 1280x1024@60Hz is the optimal setting. In a forum i read, when the TFT is connected via DVI there's no difference between 60Hz and 75Hz.

ok, that sure calmed me down

[kosmiq]

DabHand, I know excactly what you are talking about but trust me, the reason this one has been relabeled is the fact that the 1700+ what more wanted by the market at that time.
It will run at 2800+ with no vcore changes at all, no hickups whatsoever and the guy that ordered them (he ordered 5, tried them out, picked the one he thought was 'best') did get the world record in Athlon XP overclocking. Or how about clocking that 1700+ (1.53GHz) to a whopping 3.02GHz? Of course with some serious cooling (not LN2 though)... Homebuilt... ehh whats the word in english? O crap can't remember, anyway there were cases with that **** built in that costed about 700$.

People that sell broken hardware do not deserve to own a PC. In that I am with you, but a perfectly working has-been-overclocked CPU I think is ok to sell.

And please, I am not a newcomer when it is about PC's. I have done my errors and I have learned the hard way. I have enough experience to fix my PC myself. I have no need to put it to a shop to get it fixed. I am also sure that you know enough about PC's to handle yourself and your customers...
If you have gotten the impression of me that I am arrogant and "think I know things" I will apologize right now. That is not the impression I am willing to make and not how I am IRl either. So sorry if that is the case.
Friends?

[DABhand]

Im talking about the majority not yourself who think they are better.


But dont forget there is different 1.7Ghz XP chips, two distinct family types

[kosmiq]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Im talking about the majority not yourself who think they are better.


But dont forget there is different 1.7Ghz XP chips, two distinct family types

Thought that maybe you count me into the majority...
But come to think of it, the majority also downloads illegal games...

On the other hand, I am the best...

Edit:
I hate the smiliesystem here, whenever I write ":P" it just says ":P" and not as I want it to... Have to remember to write a small "p" each time.. takes me some time