help! backup for jap ps2 with 8-wire mod chip

[c2k]

i tried to used CloneCD to back up my US Version game(not DVD) but the swap method doesn't work. is there something i should keep in mind when i try to back up a US version game for Jap version mod PS2? (with CloneCD) thanks a lot guys....

Yes - if your modchip boots with the Utility Disk, then you must use CDRWin to copy the game and patch using the Universal Patcher v1.5 downloaded from ####://www.megagames.com or ####://www.ps2ownz.com.

That's why I moved to the OrigaChip for the JAP PS2 leaving the old modchip in so as to be able to play the backups I have already patched with the Utility Disk.

[c2k]

i tried to use CDRWin to create an image, and the patcher you told me before to creat a .ppf file. then i burn them back to cd, but it still didn't work. can you think of anything i did wrong? or do i really need to use Verbatim CD-R or something like it to do the job? i just used a 700mb Imation CD-R, do you think that's the problem?
thanks again......:|

You should have no problem with the method nor the media.
a) What was the game involved?
b) What were your CDRWin settings? And CDRWin report?
c) What reader/burner do you have?
d) What modchip do you have?

[c2k]

i'm not very sure what kind chip i have, i know it has 8 wires.

I have a sony cd-rw crx140E and i called goldenhawk, they told me if the all those can display under CD READER, then it should be fine.

i tried to backup the Street fighter ex3, i actually tried many different settings for CDRWin. when i was copying to HD, i had Raw checked, error recovery set to abort(also set to ignor once too), Jitter correction and subcode analysis set to auto. read retry count set to 0 (also set to 10 once too). data speed and audio speed all to 1X.

Then i used paradox universal patcher, to patch the bin file. after that have failed, i tried to download the patchter from megagames.com. and was still unsuccessfull. i did realize one problem with the CDRWin though, when i tried to record the cd, i can't choose Raw mode, it tells me "unable to set disc parameters". do i really have to set it at Raw Mode?

I have already threw away at least 20 cd-r s already. i really appreciate your help though, but this thing is really driving me crazy.

[c2k]

by the way, the consloe version is 15000, isn't there only one kind chip for it? i'm not sure...

I assume you read my first reply - that you boot with the Utility Disk. Most likely then that you have the modchip.com 8 wire mod (which I still have although I've had the OrigaChip fitted on top of it).

Your burner is fine (set read retry count to 10 to give it some chance if there is a blob on the CD!). Your CDRWin settings are fine; RAW is important. Data speed need not be 1x unless the source media is suspect.

You didn't provide any detail of what happened with the UP. It picks up the BIN file you created with CDRWin and does three things:
1) It renames the main game file
2) It amends the system file to reflect the new name of the main game file
3) It puts a patch advertising itself in the main game file
A couple of minutes later it reports "Successfully Patched". Did this happen?

Because you produced a CUE/BIN file combination at the first CDRWin stage, you should not check RAW on burning. The CUE sheet tells CDRWin what to do.

From what you described as your actions, it should all work. What did UP report? Or did it simply not boot the game produced by CDRWin? Have you successfully played a backup before and if so how was it produced?

[c2k]

The UP did report "successfully patched" and all the setting were as you said for the CDRWin, except the read retry count. i'll set it to 10 and try again.
also, i did try my friend's backup before, and it worked. however, i used a different swap method, i don't know if that means i have a different chip or something: i have a console on, and put the UDisc on the cd tray, then i double pressed the reset botton really fast, it'll take the UDisc in and when the memory card and UDisc screen comes out, i choose UDisc, it'll pop out, then i just put in the backups, it'll work... but all the backups i have made didn't do anything after i swap it. i don't know if you can understand me or not please help!!

[c2k]

please help!!!

You have described a boot method I can't reproduce. What you've said is that you boot with the utility disk by pressing reset twice; you get to the memory card/disk screen (that requires pressing X on my PS2); the disk tray pops out and you replace it with the backup. I can't make that boot any backup. This doesn't make sense to me. At the memory card/disk screen you are past the poitn where a backup can be booted!

On my modchip, I boot with the utility disk, it pops out for 4 seconds during which time I insert the backup made as per Universal Patcher. Then it works.

To find out more, would you do the following? There is a file called SYSTEM on your friend's backup. Open that with NOTEPAD.EXE and let me know what it says. If the filename is something like PBPX_952.01 then it's been patched with Paradox and your own CDs should have worked. In either case, copy then copy the friend's CD with CDRWin without using the Universal Patcher. If that doesn't work then you have a reader/burner problem.

You do read on the same device as you burn, yes?

[c2k]

yes, my firend's backup does have the PBPX_952.01, it's in the same folder with SYSTEM. however, i can't open SYSTEM with notepad. then i checked the backups i made, they don't have that PBPX_952.01 file. so does that mean i didn't really patch it to the bin file???? but the UP does report "Successfully Patched" ! is there any other way to patch the games? thanks Charlie

c2k (14-11-2001 01:47):
yes, my firend's backup does have the PBPX_952.01, it's in the same folder with SYSTEM. however, i can't open SYSTEM with notepad. then i checked the backups i made, they don't have that PBPX_952.01 file. so does that mean i didn't really patch it to the bin file???? but the UP does report "Successfully Patched" ! is there any other way to patch the games? thanks Charlie

Well at least we know why your own backups won't boot - I think. You can open SYSTEM with Notepad. Please do this on a disk you created. In the Open dialogue, select files of *.* type and then you can pull SYSTEM in. The name of the file in SYSTEM should correspond with the name of another file on the CD. If not PBPX, then it would be SLES or SLUS.

Are you sure you burnt back to the CD-R the BIN file that you patched? UP has never failed.

Whch country are you in in case we can exchange stuff by post? Dis your friend patch his own game and can he try for you with you watching?

[c2k]

ok, this time i did open the SYSTEM in the backup i created, here's what it saids in it:
BOOT2 = cdrom0:\SLUS_200.34;1
VER = 1.00
VMODE = NTSC

and there's another SLUS_200.34 file i have in the CD too.

but on my frined's back up it has
BOOT2 = cdrom0:\PBPX_952.01;1
VER = 1.10
VMODE = NTSC

is Ver=1.10 and Ver=1.00 make a big difference?

thanks for ur help!!
by the way, i'm in Pennsylvania, USA

Well, that confirms it. Either UP has not carried out the patch or you are writing the wrong file back to CD-R. So you'll need to retrace your steps to find out what's going wrong. The steps you took were simple (but please read this and confirm or retry):

1 You took a copy of your game to the HDD using CDRWin having selected the BIN/CUE Sheet option. You called the file (e.g.) HHH (producing HHH.BIN & HHH.CUE)

2 You applied the UP v1.5 to the file HHH.BIN & UP reported successfully patched

3 You burned the file HHH.BIN back to CD-R using CDRWin selecting the CUE Sheet option to supply the burning parameters

UP locates the relevant file list parameters in the BIN file and makes the changes to PBPX and also finds the data in the SYSTEM file to make the corresponding change there.

If you wanted to avoid the next coaster you could use the DOS COmmand prompt command FIND "PBPX" c:\path\HHH.bin and if it's there, then it should burn OK. Better still, you probably still have the failed BIN on your hard disk. Do the text searxh on that. If the PBPX is there, then its going in the wrong place, which I find difficult to believe.

I hope at the end of the day it's just a file path question; i.e. you might be patching one file and burning another.

The version number is irrelevant to the question.
We are at least making progress.

[c2k]

how do i find out if the bin is patched again? i don't really understand the setps.