Trouble with PS2 DUo2SE chip

[20cobra01]

Greeting all and thanks in advance for any help that I can get from all of you. I just recently chipped my v4 no gap bios ps2. When I try to play my back up copy of GTA San Anderas I continue to get disc read errors. When I try to play my originals, I get a screen that says I can only play original format PS2/PS1 games. If I use the technique to disable the chip my originals play fine. I have checked the install 3 times now and everything looks good with a multimeter(no bridged connections). It is getting late so I will sleep on it tonight and give it another look in the morning. Can anyone help me out. How are the games suppose to act when you play back ups. Do you see the screen where you can go into the browser / config setting menu, while the game loads or should I be seeing something else. When I use the eject to turn the game on and put the back up in the tray and then use the reset to load the game I do see a sort of red screen flicker that I have not noticed before chipping the console. Do you think it may just be a bad back up of GTA, I used DVD decryptor in ISO Read then ISO write, I have seen some post about using the slowest write speed, does it matter. It seems to have burnt fine in the faster write speed. Sorry for the rambling but I have been up for some time now.

[lufcfan]

So, is it the original which red screens or the backup?

[Warlock]

Check the install again. You got a wire crossed or a solder bridge somewhere. I doubt its the chip.

[20cobra01]

Depends on what you are calling red screen. The Original disk will cause sort of a red screen stating that only original ps2 or ps1 formats games can be played. If I disable the chip by holding down the reset until the blue clouds appear then it (the original will play fine). I will attempt to give the connections another look this morning. I am just not completely sure how the PS2 should operate when the chip is working. Should I expect the original games to play without having to disable the chip?

Thanks for the responses

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by 20cobra01

The Original disk will cause sort of a red screen stating that only original ps2 or ps1 formats games can be played.

Thats what is knows as the Red Screen of Death, Red Screen, or RSOD.





Tyler!

[20cobra01]

Well I have gone over the connections with a multimeter and even resoldier a few that I thought may have been suspect, but still no joy. Should I be getting a red screen of death when trying to boot my originals without disabling the chip? Should I not be getting the red screen of death when trying to boot my back up as well? I am using a soldering shematic that I found off of modchip.com (V4 no gap bios). From what I am explaining can anyone tell me which connections sound like they may be wrong. It seems like I can disable the chip well enough so the pwr, gnd and rst are probably working. The only ones that I have questions about are the S connection which appears to be made between two componets maybe a capacitor and a resistor, the A connection which appears to be made off of a leg of a resistor. I have been able to track the continuty of the A,B, and I connections back to legs of the big chip that they are made in front of. I am starting to loose hope about getting this to work. Maybe the chip is working fine and I have a bad back up. What would this scenaro look like on a working version of a modded ps2?

[lufcfan]

Nah mate, you've got something wrong somewhere

When the Duo 2 SE is working correctly, the station will perform as it normally would - no RSOD, no disabling to get originals loading etc. The only difference is that backups will load. With originals not working enabled, but working when disabled definately points to something in the install.

Keep going, bud

[Warlock]

Use this diagram http://www.duomodchip.com/english/in..._v4_no_gap.jpg

[20cobra01]

Thanks for the information. Going by the information that PS2 Originals should work, I have looked over the install three more times now. Thanks for the link to the directions, it confirmed that the diagram I was going by was correct. I have had my back up of Castlevania Lament of Innocence give me the RSOD, but only twice, the other times I get disk errors. This thing is driving me crasy, I am running out of ideas. May just have to bite the bullet and unsolder everything and start over, but I am 99.9% confidnet in the connection that I have already made.

[lufcfan]

Disk Errors? Could be a laser or poor media or bad burn issue. What DVD Media are you using for your backups?

[Warlock]

He able to load originals with the chip disabled but not enabled so its a install problem not a burn issue.

[spedmetal]

Dont want to step on toes here, but I have seen the RSOD with an original and a Duo/Apple installed properly on a V4, but with the chip disabled it works. It could very well be a laser issue. Try booting a less laser demanding original with the chip enabled. All GTA games are laser intensive and if it takes to long for your console to boot them the duo/apple will time out its patching and you will get the RSOD. This is why if your laser goes to the browser screen at any point before booting on original it will most likely have trouble reading recordable media or even an original with the chip enabled.

V4 and earlier PS2's are known for laser issues. Didnt you say it booted back-ups before you dropped it? You may have jarred the laser out of adjustment just enough to make it not read back-ups well.

When booting an original with the chip disabled you should never see the browser/system config menu before booting.

You might be able to simply give the laser lens a little cleaning. Some people will recommend the laser cleaning disc's, I for one feel they do more harm then good.

Good luck

[Warlock]

Your not stepping on any toes here Sped , If the laser was shot to start with and it hanged at the browser a few seconds before a original would load then i could see what your saying, I just never seen or heard of a console that booted originals fine yet refuse to with a mod installed correctly. Then again you do more installs than me

[20cobra01]

Very interesting comments about the laser issue. Now that I think of it, I always see the browser screen before originals load, now that I think about it I do recall earlier on that originals may have bypassed the browser screen while booting, but this was maybe a year or two ago. If this is indeed the problem and cleaning does not help out what are my options, (getting another PS2?) Also the media that I am using to back up games are verbatim DVD -R (for GTA San Andreas) Verbatim DVD+R(for another back up of San andreas) and I have a back up of Castlevania Lamont of Innesence on another verbatim DVD -R. I have been able to get the back up of Castlevania to make it to the RSOD as well as a few Disk Read errors. I have yet to get either of the GTA to make it past the disc read error. I believe the castlevanis was around 2.5 Gb when ripped, (noticed that it barely covered half of the disk). Going alone with this theory I will try to boot less laser intensive disk with the mod chip enabled. The disk I have been using is NCAA Football 2005, since I did not think it would matter, but I will try the castlevania original next. I have just finished reinstalling this chip for the 3rd time, if one thing is for certain, I am becoming very efficent at breaking the PS2 down and also aware of just how much of it is not neccesary to be assemble for testing, my wife thinks I will have the house burnt down by the end of the night. Thanks for the feedback, everyone has been very helpfull.

[20cobra01]

First of all thanks to everyone, I am currently in tears of joy. Spedmetal I am in debt to you and currently considering naming my second born after you. Turns out it had to be the laser. I tried booting the original castelvania and had a successful boot with the chip enabled. I took the top off of the disk drive and swabbed it down with some alchole on the end of a cue tip, and just like that the back up version of Castelvania booted up. Next up was one of the back up version of my GTA San Andreas, at first it got stuck in a loop with the memory card / play disk screen until I tried a roboot and then it booted as well. I can finally put this one to bed and start fully assembling my PS2. Thanks, everyone was very helpfull and kept my sainity in check while getting this to work.