copying copied dc games......

Hey guys. I am having a problem copying a selfboot backup. I dont know what to use to copy it. I tried cdrwin and it didnt work. Is there any special way that I have to copy it to the harddrive, and is there anything I have to put in it? Please someone HELP ME. thanks

hi m8,the best way i have found of copying copied games is by using clonecd and a compatible cd writer,i have never had any problems.

Find diskjuggler 2.x and it's very very simple to burn From cdr to cdr...this is how I do it.

[Wayniac]

I have found Disc Juggler to be very picky about which drives you use.

CloneCD has worked for me; if you have problems reading DC games, get a compatible cd-r reader for a cheap price adn read in RAW mode.

Note: Only the self-boot games give any trouble - the non self-booters can be copied with virtually anything.

All the best!

[sonick]

I just copy an ISO to my hard drive, then re-burn it onto a blank CD...

Not sure about selfboot problem though...

[Wayniac]

The selfboot problem:

When you copy a self-boot game, you need to copy at leat 2 tracks (this is normally the number):

The first track will be a short audio track. The second will be the actual game data - much the same as the games that require a boot disc. Now the problems arise beacuse of the gap between these two tracks - some cd-writers can't handle the lenght of this gap and hence give errors. I think this is part of the protection, I'm not usre.

As fas I know people seem to rave about the Plextor drives being able to copy self-booters - but the latest 16x writer has is rumoured to be incapable of reading the Safedisk 2 protection; you have to do "downgrade" the bois in the writer to enable it. Note: this is a rumour, I haven't got a Plextor machine so I can't verify if the info is correct.

I can copy self-booters, but some take 20sec extra to get to the Sega logo screen, the machine making a noise like it's searching for somethng. Most strange. BUT they do work normally afterwards:

I use an onl 24x Toshiba cd-rom to do all my RAW reading, and a cheapo Traxdata 8432 writer to burn the games, at 8x. I paid £99/$145 for the drive. The Traxdata won't work with Disc Juggler and only sometimes works with Nero 5.0.2.8. as far as self-booters go, hence the reason why I'm using clonecd

I used to own a Philips 3610. Only 2x write, but 99% of the self-booters could be copied with Disc Juggler. The Mitsuimi 4x writer also come highly rated.

Sorry I can't come up with some better info - I'll keep trawling the net(!) and see what comes out the wash from this big ocean!!

All the best ;-)

[sonick]

Hmm.. i tried copying JGR, i think it was a selfboot, coz there was 1 short audio track then a second data track. but the data track was like in Mode2/XA when i copied the disc... So i go to burn it (Disc at once, not TOA), and it didnt work too... I guess I must have had the same problem...