So this is good news

[EVOEvo]

My experiments w/ online and DNAS error (NCAA 2004)
OK my setup: Ver 7 NTSC w/online pack. Installed Messiah 2 pro, ver 1.3(?)...tryed NCAA and made a "temporary" copy ( ) for testing purposes
Copy works flawlessly until I try to go online...I get the dreaded DNAS error.

(1) If I boot w/ the original and swap disc to put the copy in before trying to get online, I get the DNAS error.

(2) If I boot with copy, and then swap disc to put in the original BEFORE trying to get online, Everything works great!

(3) If Boot w/ copy, swap w/ original before getting online, then swap again to the copy once I'm logged into the EA servers, everything works great!

(4) If Boot w/ original and then swap to the copy once I'm logged into the EA servers, everything works great!

I then installed a switch between the 3.5V power supply to the Messiah that will disable the chip when the switch is in the "off" position and repeated everything in both switch-on and switch-off position....everything was exactly the same except:

(a) The copy could not be booted when the switch was in the off position.




Conclusion:

(I) DNAS (for NCAA 2004) appears to look for the original PRIOR to allowing access to the EA servers. After you're logged in, there appears to be no more checks.

(II)DNAS (for NCAA 2004) does not appear to be affected by the presence of mod-chip in the PS2 (ie the Mod chip does not ban you from the servers...its the copied disc that ban ya!)

(III) A work-around to this method of DNAS may involve a simple patch!!!

Hope this is helpful to those that develop the work-arounds so that we can continue to enjoy having backups of our games that we ALL purchase!!!


__________________
"Let's Stick it to the MAN!!!"


Seems the DNSA only dose one check on the game to see if its original now if peps would try makeing patchs we might be able to have online play

[crazygamelover]

Good Work Evo!

[TylerDurden]

Evo, when you booted your originals as in Test 4 did you do so with the chip turned off? Or did you use the switch that you mentioned?

Also you say you swapped, did you mean swap with those swapmagic covers?



Tyler!

[EVOEvo]

o sorry i cut and pasted this from ownz i can link u to the person that did the test there is alot more post about it there i just figerd i would post it here and let peps here know how close there getting to solveing the puzzle


http://www.ps2ownz.com./forums/showt...&threadid=4190

[EVOEvo]

yeah i belive the guy has a m2 system with a flip top as well so he can change the game while online with out the DNSA knowing

[TylerDurden]

Next time you copy and paste, please post the original posters name and where you got it from. That way you dont get credit for someone elses hard work.

Ughh how I dread going to other sites.





Tyler!

[EVOEvo]

u would prob have to make u a acc there i go there alot i learn all kinda new things like the v9 units is said they cant play ar max or gs2 disk so i hope that is false cause i just bought ar max and i will be pissed if i cant use it on my v9

[TylerDurden]

I may dread it but I didnt say I wouldnt go.


P.S. I shoulda known it wasnt you that posted that info, with all the punctuation and easy to read listings.





Tyler!

[EVOEvo]

yeah and i never posted a listing that long b4 thats alot of typeing

[ottoman]

Originally posted by TylerDurden
I may dread it but I didnt say I wouldnt go.


P.S. I shoulda known it wasnt you that posted that info, with all the punctuation and easy to read listings.





Tyler!

LOL!!! an ARMax works fine in v9 machines.

[EVOEvo]

ok thats good to know cause the say swap magic dose not work even though they got a fix for the swap magic gs2 and ar max that runs off a mem cards but i prob will never need to use swap disk unless a new protacton is made that my v9 wont load