H4x0r (again!) Ripped Engine

[DABhand]

Because its not mentioned in the FAQ page doesnt mean anyone can do it, its his code and therefore common sense prevails that you give props to the person. Its common courtesy.

[jeremy_mccurdy]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Because its not mentioned in the FAQ page doesnt mean anyone can do it, its his code and therefore common sense prevails that you give props to the person. Its common courtesy.

Being courteous, and doing what's required are two separate things. Sure, h4x0r isn't being courteous, which is a dick move, but it's not the huge terrible crime that some people are making it out to be. If the creator of CE really wanted people to mention him, he would have written down said stipulation. Or he could have gone for a creative commons license, or written up a GPL license.

And if it really is such a big deal, why not contact the creator of CE and get his input? Right now it just seems like people are making a stink about h4x0r for being kind of a jerk, but not really doing anything wrong.

Also [Psych]: He's not ripping it off if the CE creator doesn't actually care if people do that.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by jeremy_mccurdy

Sure, h4x0r isn't being courteous, which is a dick move, but it's not the huge terrible crime that some people are making it out to be.

Couldn't agree more.

[TwwIX]

You got your panties in a bunch just over the fact that he offers his trainers for free unlike the swindler's at CH. Wah whackity wah!

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by jeremy_mccurdy

And if it really is such a big deal, why not contact the creator of CE and get his input? Right now it just seems like people are making a stink about h4x0r for being kind of a jerk, but not really doing anything wrong.

Hes not doing anything wrong?

He rips off things left right and centre, options for other trainers, CE's source...etc

He isnt doing anything wrong to you, because you get some half assed working trainers for free, right? Of course it is.

And also dont assume to know what DarkByte thinks.

[jeremy_mccurdy]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Hes not doing anything wrong?

He rips off things left right and centre, options for other trainers, CE's source...etc

He isnt doing anything wrong to you, because you get some half assed working trainers for free, right? Of course it is.

And also dont assume to know what DarkByte thinks.

I never claimed to know what DarkByte thinks, but you don't know either. If it matters so much to you, contact him and get his opinion. If he actually has a problem with it, then I'd agree that h4x0r was in the wrong. However, if he doesn't want people using his code freely without crediting him, all he'd have to do is mention that he wants to be credited somewhere on his page, which he hasn't.

As it stands, it just looks like PhoenixCH started this thread to rub out the competition by making a fuss over h4x0r being a jerk.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by jeremy_mccurdy

I never claimed to know what DarkByte thinks, but you don't know either. If it matters so much to you, contact him and get his opinion. If he actually has a problem with it, then I'd agree that h4x0r was in the wrong. However, if he doesn't want people using his code freely without crediting him, all he'd have to do is mention that he wants to be credited somewhere on his page, which he hasn't.

As it stands, it just looks like PhoenixCH started this thread to rub out the competition by making a fuss over h4x0r being a jerk.

He is a jerk. And a thief.

Again its COMMON COURTESY to give props for peoples work.

It doesnt have to say he doesnt like it in his source code. People should know to say "Thanks to DarkByte".. Yes I dont know how he thinks, why that is an issue when you say it to me is mind boggling, because you were the one who was assuming what DarkByte was thinking I was not. But its nice to be nice.

Kelsat was just as bad, even his ASM engine was a rip of someone elses, and the chiptunes was knicked from other sources to be used on his. But I havent seen any of his work around for a long time, maybe he got the message you cant steal options from others.

[jeremy_mccurdy]

Not being courteous doesn't make him a thief. You can't steal something that's being given away for free with no attached restrictions or requirements.

For example, I could have a basket on the street filled with five dollar bills and a note saying "Go ahead and take the money if you want to", if people take the money and don't say "Thanks", they still aren't stealing, they're just being jerks.