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Old 05-10-2006, 06:54
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to be absolutely honest with you, i love cynism - especially when it's hardly perceptible. but this time it wasn't. i bet you can do better though.
anyways, trying to be on the track. my list of recommended steps described as 'throw everything including the kitchen sink at the program to get it working' was written to give people a big picture what they can do about SR7-protected games. i've spent many hours learning SecuROM behavior in certain circumstances & different program combinations. i didn't encounter a single problem with suggested anti-blacklisters (LOL, i knew you would dig out anti-blaxx, just for the art or arguing).

"yep, pointing the anti blacklisting tool at the proper exe and not a launcher does increase the potential for it working..." as on the mentioned nforce thread, not always.

agreed, each pc is different, so people must find their own solution, which is why i commented on your 'throw everything including the kitchen sink at the program to get it working' post.
i like that we can all discuss & benefit from it, but this time i really cannot figure out what was the whole point of this (the meaning of this sentence is also unclear to me, but maybe that's my lack of english).

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and yes, i'll write to VSO
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Old 05-10-2006, 09:14
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'throw everything including the kitchen sink at the program to get it working'
Translates too:
"try anything and everything available to get the program working."
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i've managed to get the context, but thanks anyways
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didnt really cite anti blaxx as a reason for argument (wasn't arguing either.. was just discussing).. i could have cited others, like the subinacl one, and i consider anti blacklisting programs that destroy registry keys (albeit the mounteddevices one should be rebuilt on bootup).

Some anti blacklist programs are better than others.. the vast majority in the beginning all revolved round deleting/setting privileges on registry keys.. some of the later ones (curerom, asr etc) do api hooking and dll injection.. they are ALL variations on the same theme, with slight differences.

Because of this there is a possiblity that running 2 together is detrimental to the game... even those using api hooks do NOT unhook once the oep of the executable is reached, but remain resident throughout the entire game running, which can cause problems (esp. when some of the hooks are pretty badly coded... curerom v1 for example)..

The 2 main contenders for anti blacklisting seem to be curerom and pr0t.st0p (which is antique).. and generally most people seem to find success using curerom..

My main 'gripe' is that using multiple programs (which essentially do the same thing) leads to confusion as/when/if you find the solution as you dont really know what helped to get the game running, which defeats the entire purpose of posting 'hints'..

It should also be mentioned that when finding solutions its best to reboot, and try your solution again, as some of the anti blacklisting programs do not unload in some cases.. so you technically have a 'corrupt' system..

"oh look, i kicked my pc, moved the mouse, looked out the window, drank some coke,prayed a little, crossed my fingers, put the original disk in, and the game loaded... now i wonder what caused it to work.." (i reckon it was the coke ;p) (see my point?)
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Hi all

finally it worked perfectly!

Anyway i've tried only on my computer

I have:

1) installed daemon tools 406-x86
2) installed curerom 2033
3) selected curerom profile pointing on caesariv.exe
4) uninstalled alcohol 120 %
5) changed drive letter (assigned D: to daemon tool virtual drive)
6) started prot.stop and selected HIDE
7) mounted the full image of my cd 1 on DT
8) now if you click on the caesariv icon created by curerom it will be an error message, so i started my game with autoplay (clicked on the D: drive) then in the screen i selected "Play Caesar IV"...(the game started)
9) have noted that sometime it is necessary to click "Play Caesar IV" for two times

i hope this will help someone... now for me it's working

Thanks everyone !
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ok i forgot

at the last...at the second or the third time i tried to start the game, first i've clicked on "Curerom Reg Key Removal" then i started the game with autoplay (as i said in the previous topic)

anyway i'm not an expert...this procedure is absolutely empyric

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i think the mini is broken i have the full image at it works usng that all the time, thanks to all your advice.
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this is taken from ??????????????

What I did was to burn CD1 (ccd-cr4a.mds) using Alcohol 120% with the settings to:
Securom *NEW (in the drop down box)
and TICK the "Burn "RMPS" to recordable Media option

then I burnt it at the slowest speed that Alcohol said (4x)

After which, I inserted the CD into my drive, when the game menu came up I just hit "play"

It works, I have reloaded the game twice, and it loaded and ran both times with no problems at all..

I'm happy, if I stuff the CD I can just burn another, and CD's are cheap to buy..

Hope this helps someone else..

PS: This works with both the 1.0 version AND the Update


Does it work? Yes, it works perfectly. Guaranteed 100%.

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this is taken from ????????????????

What I did was to burn CD1 (ccd-cr4a.mds) using Alcohol 120% with the settings to:
Securom *NEW (in the drop down box)
and TICK the "Burn "RMPS" to recordable Media option

then I burnt it at the slowest speed that Alcohol said (4x)

After which, I inserted the CD into my drive, when the game menu came up I just hit "play"

It works, I have reloaded the game twice, and it loaded and ran both times with no problems at all..

I'm happy, if I stuff the CD I can just burn another, and CD's are cheap to buy..

Hope this helps someone else..

PS: This works with both the 1.0 version AND the Update


Does it work? Yes, it works perfectly. Guaranteed 100%.


Since ?????????? is a warez site the link does not belong here.

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Old 07-10-2006, 09:27
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Since ??????? is a warez site the link does not belong here.
Agree

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