Starforce Petition!

[DBS40]

I am not going to purchase or use any games that use this protection. I sold off a new copy of SC CT today on ebay and will stick to this. Any dev or publisher that uses this protection I will not do business with. I have an expensive game pc and will not risk it.

It's bad enough for gamers.

Now people are finding this intrusive software on other types of discs. This could be even more of a problem. Professional people that depend on their dics and cd drives to operate properly are at risk; maybe you as a gamer are too; as in doctors, civil engineers, and maybe even airline pilots - okay, that's stretching it, but you get the idea.

[nerva]

here we go m8s - Rootkit in Alcohol and Deamon tools
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...t-digital.html
Does any body want to start boycotting Alcohol or DT? No?
Oh.. sorry, this not the right place for it...

[rlsuth]

ahahahahahahaha Much as I've tried to avoid all games with Starforce on them, I bought some games from GoGamer and got a free present: Trackmania.

Oh well, at least I didn't pay for it, and since it's not my type of game, I'm not going to install it anyway.

[Pigdog Ratsnake]

Originally Posted by nerva

here we go m8s - Rootkit in Alcohol and Deamon tools
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...t-digital.html
Does any body want to start boycotting Alcohol or DT? No?
Oh.. sorry, this not the right place for it...

Very funny. Except they are not rootkits because:

1. The installation of the hidden driver files and registry alterations is not a secret. The files are for the operation of the software, not a hidden function unknown to the user. The registry alterations do nothing but hide the files from involuntarily installed malware like Starforce which A120 and DTools protect against.
2. They are easily uninstalled via the control panel. No traces are left behind.
3. The drivers are not spyware, they cannot secretly phone home or update, nor do they interfere with the operation of your PC.

[Azeroth]

Originally Posted by nerva

here we go m8s - Rootkit in Alcohol and Deamon tools
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...t-digital.html
Does any body want to start boycotting Alcohol or DT? No?
Oh.. sorry, this not the right place for it...

Ah, how very convenient this quote is for SF developers... but wait, YOU ARE one of the developers, right? At least you're one of the official SF Forum Moderators, so spare us your venom
Besides, there is a world of a difference between the intrusive way SF behaves on a user's PC without his consent and the way DT4 or Alcohol behave. AND so far, I haven't seen anyone complaining about DT or Alcohol affecting their normal OS operation like SF does.

Besides, my workstation has both Ultra SCSI Hard Drives and CD Drives (Real ones) and when I bought X3-Reunion, no indication on the box coud be found stating that the game would be unplayable with those. It took me 3 weeks of pingpong between Egosoft and SF support to realize that there was nothing to do about it. Most incredibly, 90% of both companies' efforts were directed towards finding out wether or not I had purchased the game

In addition to that, I bought an external USB 2.0 IDE DVD/RW to be able to play the game. Guess what... the game wouldn't run from that drive either.
I returned the game to the store two days ago

Needless to say, I'm done with SF protected games (at least while SF modus operandi remains like it currently is)