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Old 04-07-2005, 08:38
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The key to end this war?

1) produce good quality games;
Money doesn't grow on trees so develop good games and
you have my bucks! otherwise go harvesting carrots!
Thats why game developers should have their respective public forum to ask customers what they want from the new incoming game, maybe even using them as beta testers.

2) lower the price (20 euros):
The price will be lower enought to be stupid to dwl a warez version, so the customers of original game will grow and no protection will be needed at all! we are about 60 million people around the world, get only 1 milions x 20 dollars=20 millions dollars!!! is enought for writing a game? (no other costs see below)

3) buy online and download it:
No more intermediaries between developers and customers, if a game could be sell at 20 euro, at the shelves cost 3 times more!! so you can be able to download a PERSONALIZED copy of the game, in your language and with an embed mention to who is the owner of such game (e.g.: this copy of the game belongs to etc etc, thanx for buying etc etc) let people customize what they purchase, let it be unique!

4) I really think that is my right to try-before-buy, so release ALWAYS a fully enjoyable demo version of the game (ID software docet!) before the final game, i have to know if the game is REALLY as CoOL as shown in the magazines or in the internet gaming site reviews.

but this will never happens, there is a weird project.. and al this projects leads to the same reason.. MONEY!

Antivirus: they are free.. you can use it freely but you know why? because in the future you will pay for it for sure!

antispam: same as above

Internet Game servers browsers: same as above

cheats website: same as above

and so on..

even the cracking tools have a cost! so why this mess should end? naaa... too many people earn easy money...
and my opinions is useless.. just like yours.

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:24
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1. They do this already, and most publishers/developers do have beta testers.

2. Even if the game was $5 people will still steal/download the games, cause they are fat greedy feckers.

3. A good option, for the broadband people, people with 56k may miss out. But, then comes the Steam idea, they would have to protect the game via a steam like app, or else someone will get the game and sell to pals for $5 so they can play it.
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Old 04-07-2005, 16:46
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I feel Starforce ruined one of my Sata drives in my raid0 array a while back on this computer. I've heard that this can happen if you have raided drives but I have no way to prove this is what happened to my drive. The drives were just a few months old and after I installed the game called Scrapland, the problems started and then one of the drives developed unrecoverable errors and turned to scrap just like the name of the game.
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I feel Starforce ruined one of my Sata drives in my raid0 array a while back on this computer. I've heard that this can happen if you have raided drives but I have no way to prove this is what happened to my drive. The drives were just a few months old and after I installed the game called Scrapland, the problems started and then one of the drives developed unrecoverable errors and turned to scrap just like the name of the game.
There are more real cases with starforce games how yours. With raid 0 and raid 5 too, with important consequences, unrecovered and data lost.

Some people continue buying starforce games without preocupation, ok, they chosen their way. Luck for them.
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:38
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@ DABhand

I don't think that, if ALL gamez had low prices, people would continue to download them. I feel sick when I see dl links to gamez which cost 15 euros, but I understand (NOT justify) the motives of those who download games which cost 50-60 euros. There are too many games, too much similar, nobody obliges us to buy everything, it's true, but if a game would last one month (= approx 30-45 hours), 40 euros (not 50 anyway) would be an honest price. 90% of games last max. 20 hours, it's not possible to include in this type of considerations the online gaming 'cause it's not a "quality" of the game, it's a mere possibility. However piracy is not so dangerous as they want us to believe, it hurts small software houses leading them to give up but the big ones (EA, Ubisoft and so on) still have big income as they are able to "recycle" their preceiding gamez without offering any of really "new". So don't worry, I don't think they will ever know what is poverty....
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Old 05-07-2005, 10:18
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In my opinion there are some more reasons that people DL warezed Games. Not only for the price. Iīve no need to dl such games, my wife has a games store so i can test or play the newest releases. But i can say its more comfortable to play with cracked versions. Itīs extremly annoying to type endless Cd/dvd keys, 2 or 3 times reboot the system, waiting for verification the protection, hear spinning the Cd/dvd device while my playing session, the boring questions for registration the game, cancel for more and more games the fuc**** "Gamespy", watching minutelong boring Intros - in some cases without chance to break it - , and so on. I just want to install a game, remove my CD/DVD and start playing simple. For me the only reason for using Gamefixes from GCW or other pages.
And iīm sure, this could be an reason for DL warezed games. They are much more comfortable, smoother and sometimes more stable. Hereīs the point for the games industry to learn. If somebody spend 50.- Euros for an game, he has to got an userfriendly product and not an bull**** like starforce and Co.

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Most people that downloads games are from latin america, the main problem here is that games never reach to our stores... I would like to walk a few blocks and buy the cossacks 2 or any new game that have been released in europe and USA, but here in this ****ing far away country on the southern part of america games never reach.
I I go to a store they only sell a sims game or an AOE!!

Its too sad that some countries are left out of a certain market, here a customer is almost forced to download a warez game...

Hopefully Ive joined e-bay and bought the new cossacks, but I have to wait that the seller sends it by an expensive mail company which will double the price of the product... So ones again the poor and undeveloped countries have to pay more in order to buy legaly.
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