Starforce Petition!

[Grumpy]

@Stevi and Impic0
C'mon guys this was supposed to be a Starforce Petition thread! Go chat to each other in the 'Chit Chat' forum please.

[impic0]

Well sorry, but this thread makes no sense since you "sign" against the (almost) only copy protection that is still hard to crack. so what do you want? that software is protected by weak copy protections that erverybody can crack with help of some "tool"? i don't think publishers will agree with you. wouldn't it make more sense to start a petition against copy protections?

[LoxHazard]

Originally Posted by impic0

Well sorry, but this thread makes no sense since you "sign" against the (almost) only copy protection that is still hard to crack. so what do you want? that software is protected by weak copy protections that erverybody can crack with help of some "tool"? i don't think publishers will agree with you. wouldn't it make more sense to start a petition against copy protections?

Wrong

The petition is for starforce and his malicious drivers (work as a virus in your PC), not for protections in general.

If you read all post in the thread you get enough information about this.

[Grumpy]

@LoxHazard
That is exactly right. Well said.

NOTE: Its a shame the 14 1/2 thousand who have viewed this thread so far didnt come on board and submit their disgust at the Starforce Protection!
Not that they all would have been a different member etc, nor would they all have neccasarily agreed with what we have to say, but yeh it would have been nice!

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hi guys,

On a sidenote, Starforce developers are developing software for the money. Dameon Tools developers, on the other hand, are developing free software for the fame. Guess who has more enthusiasm to trick the other?

Joe

[GLH]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

Dameon Tools developers, on the other hand, are developing free software for the fame.

When i remember right, the new DAEMON TOOLS PRO 1.0 will be not for free !!!

[impic0]

Originally Posted by LoxHazard

Wrong

The petition is for starforce and his malicious drivers (work as a virus in your PC), not for protections in general.

If you read all post in the thread you get enough information about this.

So your opinion is, that copy protections are ok? I mean, not that they just make it hard for you to make a backup of your legally owned software. They also let your game become more expensive.

[TippeX]

twisted logic there, most of the times you dont legally own the software you own a license for it, and if the cd breaks you use the existance of that license to get a replacment from the publisher, as for protections costing more, they cost a fraction of the game price if you want to see where the real mark up is , its in the store, check retail price against the supplier price.. thats where the money is made, and with piracy simply exiting most publishers weight the cost of a few cents per cd for the protection and go with it, if you have a problem with the original cd then contact the publisher, thats how it works, the main 'issue' with starforce that most ppl have (apart from jumping on the 'waaah, no cracks exist for xxxx, i cant play it now' bandwagon) is the fact that the drivers make their system unstable and cause intermittent crashes, and that uninstalling the game does not uninstall the drivers etc.. thats the main argument of this thread

[impic0]

Originally Posted by TippeX

twisted logic there, most of the times you dont legally own the software you own a license for it, and if the cd breaks you use the existance of that license to get a replacment from the publisher, as for protections costing more, they cost a fraction of the game price if you want to see where the real mark up is , its in the store, check retail price against the supplier price.. thats where the money is made

You own the right to make a backup copy.

[TippeX]

having the right to make a backup copy and physically being able to do it are two totally different things all together, the industry protects the industry, no more, no less, as a consumer you really have zero rights

[LoxHazard]

Originally Posted by impic0

So your opinion is, that copy protections are ok? I mean, not that they just make it hard for you to make a backup of your legally owned software. They also let your game become more expensive.

No. I only say that this Thread is for starforce and his infernal drivers, I don´t say my opinion about others protections.

Protections aren´t good for legit customers, i agree with this, but Starforce not only protected backup posibilities, installed evil drivers in ours PC too. For this, is that this thread exists.

Anyway, I agree with Grumpy that this thread is for petition, not for discussion.

You can create a thread over other protections or other things.

[thebluegr]

There are some more games that are protected by StarForce, apart from the ones mentioned. There's also Beyond Divinity and some more games listed here:
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware...ar_force.shtml

I totally agree that it's 100% illegal not to inform the user about the existence of Starforce drivers on his system. Trojans get installed in exactly the same way

[Stevi]

Originally Posted by thebluegr

There are some more games that are protected by StarForce, apart from the ones mentioned.

Update -

Pro Rugby Manager 2
Psychotoxic
Sudeki
Creature Conflict - The Clan Wars
Cross Racing Championship
Restricted Area
Trackmania - Sunrise
Singles 2
Codename Panzers - Phase Two
1944 - Battle of the Bulge
Second Sight
Postal 2 - Apocalypse Weekend
Area 51
Psi Ops - The Mindgate Conspiracy
Domination
Still Life
SuperPower 2
Chaos League
Maximus XV: Abraham Strong Space Mercenary
Will of Steel
Garfield
The Moment of Silence
Medieval Lords
Gadget and the Gadgetinis
Gooka – The Mystery of Janatris
Xpand Rally
Asterix & Obelix XXL
Breed
Club Football 2005
Fire Department 2
I-Ninja
LMA Manager 2005

And maybe some more...

[nerva]

Originally Posted by LoxHazard

Wrong

The petition is for starforce and his malicious drivers (work as a virus in your PC), not for protections in general.

If you read all post in the thread you get enough information about this.

LOL
Dude you scare me... But i know the truth. So stop bagging others!
Where is the proof that SF drivers is a virus??
No one antivirus software company update thier antivir bases with StarForce! NO ONE!!! No articles where wrote on it in serious antivir resoures. You just use the hearings and conjecture from the web.

Think when you drink!

[LoxHazard]

Originally Posted by nerva

LOL
Dude you scare me... But i know the truth. So stop bagging others!
Where is the proof that SF drivers is a virus??
No one antivirus software company update thier antivir bases with StarForce! NO ONE!!! No articles where wrote on it in serious antivir resoures. You just use the hearings and conjecture from the web.

Think when you drink!

I don´t drink.

First, i don´t say that starforce is a virus, i said that works similar as a virus, because attack other software like alcohol 120%, and other bad things. There are a lot of writer drivers broken for starforce drivers, is true.

Anyway you are totaly partial, how you are starforce admin forum and works for starforce:
http://star-force.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38

Your opinion is not valid in this case.