Starforce Petition!

[MontyBurns1985]

StarForce 3 really sucks hard!
The only StarForce 3 protected game I have is "Splinter Cell 3 - Chaos Theory". It came together with my new Graphics card (Leadtek Winfast A6600 GT TDH).
But I will never buy such a game. This protection is very customer-unfriendly!

MfG MontyBurns1985

[whacko_kazaa]

Thanx for the list of games protected by SF. Will ensure that I don't download those. Pls. don't mistake me for writing this. I download games and not buy them 'cos, here in India they cost around 1500 bucks. No way someone's gonna pay that and also get their PC INFECTED with SF. So no more SF game downloads. Cheers for starting this topic.

[Grumpy]

@ Whacko
May I suggest you go and read the forum rules! This site is not to help you choose which games to 'download'!
People like yourself are the reason these type of intrusive protections are released!! Games are expensive in every country, what makes you think it is ok to download games just because you cant afford them!
I cant afford a Rolls Royce car but it doesnt mean I can just steal one! Developers etc work very hard to release games, so you will have to work just as hard to be able to purchase them! You obviously can afford a broadband connection therefore you can afford to buy games!
Enjoy your upcoming ban from this site!

[sabbey]

I don't know! Seeing how much the game industry still makes, even with Piracy, I think the reason we see such protections is more because they can get away with it than anything else. Isn't it grand how the government has no problem helping big business screw over legitimate consumers, but won't do squat to help with our rights when it comes to software?

The whole thing is BS in my opinion. I will practically buy any game I want, but (Except for Kill.Switch and XIII) I will never buy another game with either StarForce or Tages. Funny how both were cracked eventually anyway...

Sean

[dajunka]

I think it goes without saying that I’m for the boycott.
I got to say there's a lot of cool arguments mostly against SF coming from forum members, stuff that I've never really given much thought to before.

One plus to this campaign is that SF is getting discussed more and more on game forums, mostly shouting for it's demise. The minus is that more and more game forums are closing or deleting threads that attempt to discuss SF, shoot, what is there to hide.

Read for more info on the Starforce virus.
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000477025364/

Come on my dear mods nominate this thread to the big man for a sticky badge.

[sabbey]

I am not surprised, many forums don't have the balls to stand up and talk about this stuff. Too afraid of getting closed down...

[Monty Burns]

Just to make one thing sure: I DO BUY all of my games......And yes, almost every protection has to install "drivers" to function properly. SF really made my system to become unstable......and before any "wise man" comes and says something like "Hey, if sf makes your system unstable, you probably have a problem with your configuration", I have to admit that I am a sysop at a rather large company, and I know how to setup a system.

BTW, I have several systems at home, some of them are pure (fast and reliable) scsi systems. I am afraid I am a SCSI fan......but sf3 developers surely don't like me....

The reason why I don't like sf is NOT tht it is very hard to crack....it is more that sf games totally refuse to run on some of my systems cos I DARE to have hardware equipment, which sf does not like. Even if it thinks that I deserve having a look at the game, sf sometimes screws up my system.....

That's my bottom line.....

[10823berlin]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

@ Whacko
May I suggest you go and read the forum rules! This site is not to help you choose which games to 'download'!
People like yourself are the reason these type of intrusive protections are released!! Games are expensive in every country, what makes you think it is ok to download games just because you cant afford them!
I cant afford a Rolls Royce car but it doesnt mean I can just steal one! Developers etc work very hard to release games, so you will have to work just as hard to be able to purchase them! You obviously can afford a broadband connection therefore you can afford to buy games!
Enjoy your upcoming ban from this site!

Hi,

I just would like to say that I neither have any moral problems nor I dont understand your agression to this Indian guy! He lives in a Third World country and you tell him to waste lots of money for some ****ing games which generate some fun for very little time. You didnt make the rules so dont play the judge here! I guess that my computing knowledge is quite limited to all of you specialists here and I even didnt know that copy protections are running like trojans in the background - but I honestly have very little moral problems of being a software PIRATE. When the software or movie associations present their statistics of financial damage caused by internet piracy they assume that every stolen game or movie is a product which the thief would have bought if there would exist a technical solution of stealing it. (I appologize for my poor English - my German is better So in their statistics I am a person which would go EVERY day to the cinema and I would go to my game dealer TWICE a week if I couldnt have the possibility of downloading movies or games. What a god damn stupid mendacious logic! As a mixture of being a student and a self-employed I know about the illegal character very well. But playing games for me is just like testing them. And 80% of these games i quit playing early and I would kill myself if I would have bought them! I absolutely do not accept the price system for this service and 60 Dollar for a game which i quite in 80% before finishing is unacceptable. (Software is more a service than a product!) If the developpers would be clever they wouldnt waste lots of money in programming copy protections which gets cracked anyway. They should answer the global privacy with new ways of payment. Like a "pay per play" or something. What they do is strategically wrong. Battlefield is doing it in pretty good way. They offer infact a online game. You HAVE to buy it if you want to play it. Thats everything I got to say. And if some people here want to ban me now: Do it. I give a ****.

[Grumpy]

@10823berlin
I am not having a go at 'Whacko' because he lives in India! I had a go at him because he clearly did not read the forum rules! True i did not write the rules but without these rules this site would be swamped with all sorts of questions regarding warez and piracy which in turn would put this great site at risk of possible closure! I enjoy this site and I enjoy all the friends I have made and met here. I dont want Fileforums to disappear.
To use the excuse he lives in a third world country is Lame! He can afford his broadband connection!
To say you only download games to test them is just nonsense! Surely you have heard of game Demo's! I also know for a fact you have Game Rental Shops in Germany! Why cant you rent a game for the purpose of testing, if you then like it you can buy it! The shop I rent games from will even take off the price I payed to rent it if I decide to buy it.
And with Battlefield 2, not everyone wants to play a game online! And as far as 'Pay per play, I have already stated in a previous post that I would much prefer the Steam Activation method than Starforce!
Read all the posts before you comment on what I write to others! Unlike you I will still be a member tommorrow!

[10823berlin]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

@10823berlin
I am not having a go at 'Whacko' because he lives in India! I had a go at him because he clearly did not read the forum rules! True i did not write the rules but without these rules this site would be swamped with all sorts of questions regarding warez and piracy which in turn would put this great site at risk of possible closure! I enjoy this site and I enjoy all the friends I have made and met here. I dont want Fileforums to disappear.
To use the excuse he lives in a third world country is Lame! He can afford his broadband connection!
To say you only download games to test them is just nonsense! Surely you have heard of game Demo's! I also know for a fact you have Game Rental Shops in Germany! Why cant you rent a game for the purpose of testing, if you then like it you can buy it! The shop I rent games from will even take off the price I payed to rent it if I decide to buy it.
And with Battlefield 2, not everyone wants to play a game online! And as far as 'Pay per play, I have already stated in a previous post that I would much prefer the Steam Activation method than Starforce!
Read all the posts before you comment on what I write to others! Unlike you I will still be a member tommorrow!

About my testing thing, you know for yourself that demos dont give a good overview of the game. At least not for me. I also didnt want to masquerade me like "I am a tester" or something. And regarding the prices for a broadband connection in India: Maybe you can tell me how much they are? You seem to know about it....Aha, just for your (all the people which buy cd´s/dvd´s and talk about bringing it back to the shop) information: Believe me that buying a cd or a dvd and going back to the store and changing it cause it doesnt work in your standalone players doesnt work in Germany aswell. If the box is opened, they will just say that you obviously had the possibility of making a backup which means that they wont give you back your money.

[leezer3]

@ Nerva- Would you define a virus as something that interferes with your proper and legal operation of your PC (IE. Busts SATA dvd drives?)
That is precisely what Starforce does- Also, they caused my PC to permantly BSOD to the extent of a FDISK- Tech support not interested!

I rest my case.

-Leezer-