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[Jay_83]

You wouldn't pirate a game you don't want, hence whats the point of you even arguing about it. If you pirate a game whether you want it or not the developer DOES lose out.....noone in their right mind pirates a game they don't want so it's a stupid argument that you can't get out of.

Also yet again, If the developer's company doesnt have a good turn over....
generally because the game game doesn't sell well do you honestly thing the company will keep them all in jobs? um, no.

Lastly publishers DO NOT pay developers to make the game, i've never heard something so stupid in my life. Hence why different region games often have different publishers

Virgin most definatly did NOT pay capcom to make SFA in the uk!

[reddragon105]

Originally Posted by Jay_83

noone in their right mind pirates a game they don't want.

i agree with that statement, that's why i said hypothetically, basically it means 'if'. as in, IF i pirated a game, it wouldn't take away any money from the shop/publishers, it would just stop them getting more. that's not an argument, it's a fact.

when a developer makes their first game the publisher obviously will not pay them while they are making that. but in order to make money from the game the first-time developers will have to find a publisher and make a deal. publishers buy the rights to the game, that's where the developers get their money from. if you write a book, make a game, or whatever, and send it to a publishers, and they decide to publish it, they buy the rights. they usually pay a lump sum, followed by a percentage of the profits (unless you're a complete newbie author/developer in which case they might not). they are also likely to contract you to have your next game or two published through them. once a developer is established, they receive funding from the publisher they are contracted to.
once the game is finished the developers already have the money the publishers agreed to pay them. as the publishers own the rights to the game, any profits are theirs unless they agreed on giving the developers a percentage as well.


there are other ways for developers to get money, but the vast majority will get funds from the publisher they are contracted to.
check out this link:
http://www.obscure.co.uk/industry_overview.shtml

and i quote from it:
"Developers - The companies or people who create the games. ... More often than not the developers are funded by a Publisher to produce a game. ...publisher funding is still the major method of bringing a product to market."

[Jay_83]

For main stream console games that isn't the case,

Take GT4 for example, developed by polyphony studios which are In-House sony developers, hence published by sony.

GTA Series - Developed by Rockstar Studios, In house company of Take2. Hence published by Take2

EA Games - Developed by EA games in house departments, Published by EA Games


Crappy titles it's true of, and most of the time it's TDK that publish them.

[reddragon105]

Originally Posted by Jay_83

For main stream console games that isn't the case,

Take GT4 for example, developed by polyphony studios which are In-House sony developers, hence published by sony.

GTA Series - Developed by Rockstar Studios, In house company of Take2. Hence published by Take2

EA Games - Developed by EA games in house departments, Published by EA Games


Crappy titles it's true of, and most of the time it's TDK that publish them.

that's the same case, that's exactly what i was saying. in those cases, the people making the games are getting paid by the publishers, because the company they work for ARE the publishers, or owned by the publishers.
even if Polyphony Digital are owned by Sony, they still received money from Sony to make Gran Turismo 4

[Jay_83]

No, If the company is In-House they receive all royalities.

[TylerDurden]

Stupid already. Thread CLOSED!