Starforce Petition!

[ASIIndustries]

I dont see why we should just boycott the games that do have Starforce secretly installed on them, would it not be better to boycott the publishers that are known use the dreaded Starforce protection in their published games!

ASIIndustries.

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Originally Posted by ASIIndustries

I dont see why we should just boycott the games that do have Starforce secretly installed on them, would it not be better to boycott the publishers that are known use the dreaded Starforce protection in their published games!

ASIIndustries.

Whilst what you say makes sence it would (imo) be hard to make work. ie Lets say a publisher protects a game with SF but has another release thats protected with another copy protection then we (the consumer) would be loosing out x2 fold. Due to not buying the SF protected game and then not buying other games released from that publisher that are not SF protected because lets face it there have been some good releases that have SF protection and those of us who take part in the boycott obviously loose out. We need to make it known that we only have a problem with SF protected games regardless of who releases them and i belive the best way to send that message it to boycott all/any SF protected game/app. If a publisher has (in the past/present) released or will release a SF protected game then only boycotting the games that are SF protected will soon give the publishers/developers the message that our gripe is SF and only SF. It would be counterproductive to boycott a publisher/developer compleatly just because they have released a game in the past with SF on it because by only boycotting that SF release will the message will be loud + clear.

Its only if enough of us compleatly 100% boycott SF protected games will it make a difference. However for this to happen there needs to be a vast % of the gaming public taking part in this for it to be felt financialy by those who decide if SF is used.This means that even when a excellent game is released that we have been awaiting is released but has SF protection we bite our lip and remember its for the bigger picture but i guess that many people crack at this point and buy the SF game. (this will send out a message that as long as a game is good and has been marketed correctly ect SF will not loose profits making the boycott of ours less productive

Thats my opinion. I Support the boycott and have since the begining (as i have stated in this thread previously) so come on guys/gals lets protect our PC's, and think about the consequences SF poses. I just hope someone manages to take SF development to court and wins (or would it be the publishers who were taken to court as they made the decision to protect the game with SF). Who would be accountable ? There are so many uncertancies and a sucessfull suit against SF could open the flood gates (this is new territory) and so is the way in which SF works. If anyone knows of anything going through the courts or already gone through concerning SF id be very intrested to have a read. Any links will be appreciated.

Thats my ramble over

[Stinger87]

Hey guys, I was going to buy a game that had recieved some good reviews, but I decided to rent it first... good thing to, as it has StarForce 3 and it's not on your list.

It's Ricky Ponting International Cricket 2005, known in other countries as Brian Lara Cricket 2005, so yeah, another one to watch out for.

Damn StarForce! I'm right behind you guys.

Yikes! I guess you've seen the latest news regarding Starforce and Stardock..?

Stardock, maker of GalCiv2 was critizied by Starforce for not using their cp. The thread has since been locked, but this has caused quite a stirr.

Linkies:
http://forums.galciv2.com/index.aspx...aid=106741&c=1
http://www.star-force.com/forum/inde...topic=670&st=0
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1209

This one even made gamespot's PC news: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145864.html

[Grumpy]

@midfingr
The interview, on Gamespot, with Galactic Civilations II lead designer and Stardock head Brad Wardell is very interesting. He brings up a few things that have been mentioned many times before but which have been argued about time and time again! The main point being:

Most people who pirate a software product would never have purchased it.

Now I have heard a lot of you talk about this!

Another interesting point is:

EBGames has released their top-selling PC games from last week. Galactic Civilizations II was number one. So if piracy is such a menace, it's not apparently affecting us to the degree that some say it should.

Ive always maintained that if a game is good enough people will purchase it!

I think they are on the right path with the updates idea. But the problem is, will developers/publishers start releasing unfinished games (with files purposely missing) so that you need to patch it before you play?
This in my opinion would not be a bad thing! It would sort of be like what we had to do with Halflife 2. That being we had to download files before we could play. Difference with Halflife 2 being we had to still use the CD to play until they succumbed and released the patch to allow the use of NoCD.

[Grumpy]

@HBAndrew

will be downloaded and played

May I suggest you have a read of the forum rules before you bother to post such dribble again!!

[Rayder]

UGH!!! I just got burned by buying a game that had the StarForce virus/rootkit (whatever) in it. L.A. Rush. Luckily, I checked GCW before opening it....

It's a good thing I didn't open it. If I would have opened it, I would have been stuck with it. Back to the store it goes. And when I take it back, I'll be sure to let them know that it was because of the potentially damaging protection that it contains as my reason for bringing it back.

Loss of sales +1 thanks to StarForce....and NOT piracy!

The StarForce-infested list of games NEEDS TO BE A STICKY POST so we can reference it quickly, without having to hunt down this petition thread. Could that please be added?

[Killpuppy]

Starforce f**ks me the buyer

therefore I shall f**k Starforce by not buying any more of their s**t

* Not everyone here is a pirate but I feel treated as one when I encounter a Starforce title

[Rayder]

The lawsuits are starting!!!!!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1559

WOOT!

[TameBest]

When playing a game, I'm buying the game ! I'm a Starcraft and Warcraft addict and I bought all originals...
My way of playing is to make an ISO image and play it via Daemon tools. The reason is CDs and DVDs suffer much too much !
Last week I bought the "Move2Play" game (an Eyetoy like for PC) and detected a Starforce 3 protection on it :-(
My kids are 9 and 3 years old... they aren't carefull enough which means they are screwing games sometimes.
2 weeks ago, my 3 years old son came to me with my original "Toy Story 2" DVD... Totally SCREWED by himself: "it doesn't work dad !" (of course, he just broke it in 2 parts !)
With Starforce 3 (and above), it seems there is NO possibility for a backup :-(
This was the ONE AND ONLY Starforce protected game I ever bought !
This will be my way of boycotting Starforce in the future...
Just because I cannot possibly be present each tims my son will play on the computer...

[VenOmaX666]

i never buy starforce games i hate this protection
i want to know if they say in the game box that the game is starforce protected so i will never be fooled...

starforce may die ...
were all with you guys
gl

[CaveACane]

There is absolutely no way I will ever buy a Starforce protected game. I don't care how good it is !!!!

I once installed Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and it slowed my CD/DVD drive down to nothing !!!

Once bitten twice shy... if its Starforce protected its not worth the risk of installing. Anyone who has had this experience will tell you the same.

There is always another game !!!

[-AxA-]

After installing SH3 (a game with starforce) i've problems:
- Computer has slow down
- Once in a while a blue screen
- errors saying that i don't have enough intern mermory

So now i'm boycottin Starforce

[shinyrory]

Starforce was installed on my comp and it messed up my dvd burner. Never buying a starforce protected game again.

[rz22g]

Yes, I am boycotting Starforce games

My system started running strange and I had not even heard of starforce. I found info on it after searching for my system symptoms on the internet. Come to find out Starforce had installed by either a game or demo without my knowledge. It is also annoying now to spend time downloading a demo, going through the install process and then being prompted about starforce. At the very very least, starforce installation should be listed as one of the requirements in the system requirements of the game.

I have gone a step further and cancelled my fileshack account. I feel that they should in some way tag what demos contain starforce and will not continue to use their service until they do. It is bad enough that a game will install Starforce but a DEMO!!!!! Thats just stupid.