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Tyr 26-11-2001 05:42

Plextor 24/10/40a and SafeDisk 2 Pobs.
 
I just bought a Plextor 24/10/40A with firmware 1.02.
As far as I've read the writer ist suppost to burn "perfect" SafeDisk 2 copys.
I tried to burn a backup of Civ III using CloneCD v3.2.1.1. The copy runs perfect in every CDRom exept the burner itself. I've read that's possible, that the copy works only in the burner, but I've never read, that the copy worked fine except for the burner.
Someone else has had the same problem or has any suggestions?

WDR 26-11-2001 07:43

i can't help with your problems..... but did you try to make a copy from your copy again and see is it still work on all drive or your plextor?!?! ....

actually.... that's a good news....cus I want the copy play on all Cd rom more than only in its burner....

WDR101

Morglum007 27-11-2001 04:28

Yep, this cd-r makes "perfectly" backups of most known protections and safedisc v2 and securom is included...and it works on every cd-rom/dvd-rom.
Now either safedisc or securom includes atip copy protections......this means that your copy will run on every cd/dvd-rom but not in any cd-r units

Hope i helped you!

crispy 30-11-2001 19:11

Yep.

Safedisc2 latest versions and Securom2 check to see if the cd is a cdr or pressed silver by looking for a cdr's ATIP portion.
Only CD burners can provide this info, so either run from a cdrom/dvdrom, or install daemon tools (or the latest CloneCD version) to stop this check.

Gforce 03-12-2001 07:11

Seriously? So that's the solution then: I should be running Diablo2 etc. from a normal cd rom drive and not my cdr?

crispy 07-12-2001 07:07

It should make a difference as long as your copy has sub-channel data on it.
Install daemon tools as this will hide your cdr media as well.

Uncut 27-12-2001 02:54

Quote:

Tyr (26-11-2001 13:42):
I just bought a Plextor 24/10/40A with firmware 1.02.
As far as I've read the writer ist suppost to burn "perfect" SafeDisk 2 copys.
I tried to burn a backup of Civ III using CloneCD v3.2.1.1. The copy runs perfect in every CDRom exept the burner itself. I've read that's possible, that the copy works only in the burner, but I've never read, that the copy worked fine except for the burner.
Someone else has had the same problem or has any suggestions?
Did you tick always close last session?

crispy 27-12-2001 08:18

The problem has nothing to do with that. If he hadn't closed last seesion, it wouldn't work at all.

The problem is the cdr media check (aka ATIP) done by later versions of sd2. Hence it works in cdroms, but not burners.

xdeity 10-01-2002 11:49

you should have bought the Liteon 24x writer, cheaper, and it reads and writes pretty much anything

podunkviller 10-01-2002 18:42

installing daemon tools would actually be bad, as many programs are starting to blacklist it. it would be far better to simply use the later versions of clonecd and click its very own hide cd-r media option. diablo2 is securom (2?).

Eagle 12-01-2002 16:51

Quote:

xdeity (10-01-2002 19:49):
you should have bought the Liteon 24x writer, cheaper, and it reads and writes pretty much anything
and he still would have the same problem with atip...

pratty 15-01-2002 22:14

Quote:

Uncut (27-12-2001 10:54):
Quote:

Tyr (26-11-2001 13:42):
I just bought a Plextor 24/10/40A with firmware 1.02.
As far as I've read the writer ist suppost to burn "perfect" SafeDisk 2 copys.
I tried to burn a backup of Civ III using CloneCD v3.2.1.1. The copy runs perfect in every CDRom exept the burner itself. I've read that's possible, that the copy works only in the burner, but I've never read, that the copy worked fine except for the burner.
Someone else has had the same problem or has any suggestions?
Did you tick always close last session?
I got civ 3 to work by opening clone cd tray

crispy 16-01-2002 05:42

Because it hid your cdr media, just like daemon tools.

As far as the blacklisting goes, you're right, but don't forget that DT is the only emulator at the mo which is constantly updated by it's creators in order to address these annoying sd2 traits.


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