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noonie449 06-02-2003 07:24

safedisc 2.90!!
 
looks like we have a new version of safedisc http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=5637. Does anyone know if it will be possible to make a 1.1 backup now that they are using physical parameters like securom new?

cdkiller 06-02-2003 10:36

there is still no game out using this protection...
i´m sure it won´t take long for the release groups to crack this protection and release nocd cracks.
and the development of alcohol 120% also continues,
no worry about that ;)

1:1 backups will become more difficult,
but you always can use a nocd crack.

noonie449 07-02-2003 09:31

your sites great can you send me any tools, i will be very greatfull.

TippeX 07-02-2003 10:28

noonie449 - no requesting ;)

cdkiller 08-02-2003 03:39

what tools do u mean ?

podunkviller 11-02-2003 06:52

what if they figure out a way to utilize the weak sectors in the pregap?

noonie449 12-02-2003 02:50

When im trying to load a game it says unload the debugger i need the tool to bypass the sice detection which i cannot find anywhere.Frogice does not work on XP.:mad:

cdkiller 12-02-2003 05:26

yes, frogsice don´t work on winxp.
you need win 98.

cycl0ne 19-02-2003 03:58

Hey cdkiller

The link to safedisc cleaner 1.20 in your tutorials area is dead.

Any alternative way to get it? I need something capable of allowing me to backup f12002 which has safedisc 2.60.052

Thanks man - keep up the good work.

Cycl0ne

The-S-Owl 20-02-2003 01:30

Gamefix

cycl0ne 21-02-2003 02:46

thanks a lot

Fransz 21-03-2003 18:39

Never Mind, My mistake.
Sorry

TippeX 21-03-2003 18:57

Quote:

Originally posted by cdkiller
there is still no game out using this protection...
i´m sure it won´t take long for the release groups to crack this protection and release nocd cracks.
and the development of alcohol 120% also continues,
no worry about that ;)

1:1 backups will become more difficult,
but you always can use a nocd crack.

bit of bad luck m8.. igi 2 update has it, and during the cdcheck the system is scanned for alcohol, daemon and other virtual cddrive programs, if ANY are found, the cdcheck will fail.. regardless of whether or not the cdrom is original..

i tried it with my original igi2, and had alcohol installed, cdcheck failed.. yet when i uninstalled alcohol, the cdcheck passed.. so basically if you want to run any sd 2.90.40 originals at all you MUST uninstall alcohol, daemon etc.. before the game will get past the safedisc cdcheck.. guess you'll all have to wait till alcohol and daemon get updated to get around this blacklisting, but until then it doesnt look good.

podunkviller 22-03-2003 04:38

well alcohol emulates regardless of whether the virtual drive is enabled or not. what does the new safedisc do if clonecd is installed with its virtual drive :?

TippeX 22-03-2003 11:19

if you have the original cd in the drive .. and just have daemon / alcohol installed (this is for 2.90.40) the cdcheck will fail, if you uninstall daemon / alcohol then the cdcheck will pass.. so basically if u got the original and want to play a 2.90.40 game you MUST uninstall daemon / alcohol as the cdcheck in 2.90.40 will fail if daemon or alcohol or any other virtual proggie on their list is detected... and alcohol didnt work on the clone of igi 2.. nor did daemon.... didnt know clonecd had a virtual drive.. at a guess i'd say it would fail the cdcheck too.. i aint gonna install clonecd to find out tho,

ByteMare 25-03-2003 13:41

Hmm..damn it! Well, blacklisting programs isn't a new thing since Securom have done it for a while...Maybe I should buy IGI2 and give this one a closer look....some new fancy features perhaps:cool:

Zulummar 02-04-2003 01:52

yeah, this blacklisting is a bit rediculous. Alcohol does have legitimate purposes besides piracy or even making legitimate backups of games, it's actually rather good for making lots and lots of copies of unattended system restore or installation discs, something I've used it for extensively (I got stuck with making recovery/setup cd's for all 840 or so computers at my workplace, since we finally got all the hardware standardized and the software set standardized)

Personally, I hope these companies that pull this crap with blacklisting get sued when someone legitimately purchases their product, and has never used things like alcohol for any illegal purpose, can't use it without uninstalling other software first....

can you say antitrust lawsuit? :-)

slaytanicrecord 13-04-2003 06:30

Safedisk v 2.8?
 
:eek: I have been trying to make a backup of IGI2. Clony tells me that my backup disc has safedisc v 2.8. when I try to unwrap it it ssays safedisc v 2.8 not supported yet. Any thoughts?

podunkviller 14-04-2003 00:43

your backup disc will have 2.8 on it. unwrap? i bet thats not the terminology you meant.

zacck_hawk 01-05-2003 08:55

Madden 2003 uses that protection.

FiveHorse 09-05-2003 07:09

don't know if this will be of any use, but I used GameJack not too long ago, and succesfully made a copy of IGI2, i have clonecd installed, and have had nor problems.

Lennier 15-05-2003 14:41

It would seem the new Sims Superstar expansion is also using Safedisc 2.90. It would not load, even with the original CD in the drive, under Windows 2000. I didn't see this forum before or I would have tried un-installing Alcohol 120. But what's interesting to note is, after I upgraded the machine to Windows XP, it will play fine now, even with Alcohol installed.

I was able to make a 1:1 backup using Alcohol and it played fine from the backup copy.

Blacklisting by these companies is complete BS!! It's bad enough that MicroShaft is taking inventory of what's installed on my machine, but not letting me play a game just because I have some other software installed is going too far. Maybe we should talk to the EFF about filing a class action suit against Macrovision for this type of crap so it doesn't go unchecked.

Monty Burns 15-05-2003 15:30

Well I do understand your anger, cos I am angry too about the fact that a cloning prog like alc120% gets blacklisted, but that is because of its emulating virtual drives and protections feature. It shares the destiny of almost all emualting progs.....and somehow (no, don't throw any stones) I do understand the game industry's reasons....

Lennier 16-05-2003 08:00

Well I discovered that apparently during my upgrade to XP, Windows decided to disable my virtual drives for me and render Alcohol unusable. Once I re-installed Alcohol, the game stopped working. Un-install Alcohol, and it plays fine.

Update - I upgraded to Alcohol 1.4.3.410, and the problem went away. The game loads fine now with Alcohol installed.

Pigdog Ratsnake 18-05-2003 11:03

Tried to install Rise of Nations which uses 2.9x using Daemon Tools and Alcohol 120, didn't work.

themis_t 19-05-2003 14:12

well..it was expetable....since alcohol got so much reputation in a so short period...the manufacturers had to do something about it...as for any of you that gets angry with the whole "scenic" i have to say that you should get used to this...it will always be a game that has no end...no limits...there will allways be new and better protections and new and better ways of beating them...(this forum is full of examples!!!)


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