Your ability to read whats being said is severly lacking.

I guess your ideal job isnt an English School Teacher then. Perhaps a complaining citizen? But I dont think thats a job.


Actually Apache is a great guy, he takes his OWN time to do these trainers, for years he did them sending them out for people to enjoy them, I guarentee you that out of say 100,000 people who used them, he probably got less than 1% of people coming back to say a simple "Thanks".


Now he has a website, these things take money to run, so he should what do his own job and pay out of his own money for the next whatever years and make everything free just for blowhards like you? Hello McFly!


Perhaps people who have a 2nd job should do that for free huh? Like babysitting sure get people to do that for free, its only their spare time people are wasting for doing the job for them.

And im sure you would be happy to do a 2nd job for free too, right?



And why am I even arguing with you, please amaze us about your amazing life and what you do and know. Because so far all ive seen you do is complain about something you know bugger all about.


Sorry what was that tumbleweed go by.. Wow.

@Manthrax
You criticize someone for trying to better themselves, to better something for everyone, yet you fail to mention what you have done or are doing?

You are one of the those who just expect everything to be handed to you for free!
That unfortunately is your parents fault! Its all in your upbringing.

Maybe when you finally leave home you will realize there are bills to be paid!
Then you will have no choice but to quickly grow up. Thats called a 'Reality Check'!!

Dam kids you say, hmmm yes I would have to agree with you there as its the dam kids like yourself that really have no idea. Again, thats your parents fault.

Do you know what the word 'hyperthetically' means?
Ask mum to look it up in the dictionary for you.
Once you know what it means just remember that I said:
Read and you shall learn!! ;)

Agree
 

I agree with the donation stuff and would pay if could...but I also don't have a way to pay since no cc or even a checking account. I do some graphics and stuff and could help that way if there was a way to do that...or help with trainers in anyway I could. But for those that have no CC's or checking account..it limits us. I am not a child before anyone even suggest that...I am 34 years old...but I messed my back up and am waiting on SSI case to finish. I do have alot of free time at home. So if apache has any ideas how someone like me could contribute would love to hear it...even if didn't get the trainers. I just wouldn't mind helping in return for the ones he already did.

TokenBad

I will contact paypal and ask them to shutdown the paying services to apache www.gamehacking.co.uk with full investigation whether the business is authenicated, authorised or not
Keep you tune

Personnaly, there's nothing bad about making money for trainers that a person did himself; it help paying bills and all having a side line. The only thing that i might not agree with though is charging others for works done by someone else. i would be pissed off that someone make money out of my work for an example.

TokenBad:
i thing that would be too much hassle for them opening envelops, go to the bank.. ect.

You sir are an idiot.

He is selling premium accounts which is not illegal, and/or asking for donations which isnt illegal.

Again people do NOT have to do this to benefit from the site also.

Ive never met so much moaning face whiners who get stuff for free, complain about 1 guy who wants to cover costs of his site etc.

I agree
 

I agree with this....I may not be able to pay...but not going to say crap about him cause of it...he has a right to charge...or ask for donations...

TokenBad

@Dab
Hey you cant go saying things like that about the members!!!
Geez, how dare you call him sir!!! :p

But the rest I totally agree with. ;)

A huge Thankyou to the admin and moderators and members who have supported me in this unreal ranting session, People do not like change i guess, but its the way forward , they either tag along or get left behind
TokenBad, thankyou for your kind gesture in your offer to support me by other means please visit my site and pm me , we can have a chat , i always appreciate offers to help maybe we can discuss a few things , i would love to hear your ideas and may i add other peoples ideas on other ways to contribute , i love great ideas!! ..come tell me some

Cheers you all rock! (well, almost all of you ;P)

Your Name
 

Thanks apache- is your name the same on your board? I did a search for the nick and didn't find it. Mine on the board is the same as on here...TokenBad.

Thanks.

TokenBad

Mea Culpa
 

apache:

Well after going throughout this topic, i must admit that i jumped to fast on conclusion and i feel terrible that this topic has turned that way (and attracted people more idiot than me) and din't mean to ruin you site's reputation in anyway. At first, i just wanted to point out that the trainer should be read as +3 instead a +13. Yes, i overreacted like a baby because i was pissed-off that i din't get the full trainer after subscribing you site because i hate subscribing to sites because i got shits about enlarging my .... revenue and all.

It is just that there is so many scams and all out there on the net that we don't know really what to deal with and it is easy to jump to conclusions but i am smarter that that i should know better to not judge too fast. I "real" life, i woulnd act like that.

But don't thing that ii do my apologies because you threat me because you din't scare me. It just that when i did something not cool, i am man enough to admit it and it wasn't really class of me to throw mud at someone who contribute like you do. This is much than i did (for now!).

And if someone say that i am a sissies saying that, he can go ...(you imagination here)

But one thing i stand for. You "donation" thing to get a GOLD membership should be call something like "subscription", "ticket to a better place :p " or anything else because donation it is realy a volontary donation and some people may take it the wrong way and go around saying how bad you site because of some words matters.

But really, i din't expect that topic to be like that or i wouln'd even post it a the first place.. sorry again.

enough said. i got study (from some a cool member here with a X in his nick) to do :p

its all sweet in the end pikachu5501, and it takes a fine person to say sorry in public, and i respect that;)
all the best
apache a.k.a patch...etc etc :)

Go get a real job dude......


Keep the scene free

Oh, pleez! You have no idea how much time it takes to create quality software (for whatever purpose); with a job and/or a family, your spare time goes away as if you never had any... So, don't force your own beliefs onto other people! (Just for the record: I would hate to sell my own software, too, but that's my own choice.)

how fucking ironic, the scene is FAR from free these days...
there is documented proof of teams making money from cracks,
usually those high up - the seniors, where the crackers and the
lower people usually never see or hear about the money, until
a bust happens...
the money comes from selling iso's, leech slots, pre-release iso's
and so on.. please do not delude yourself that this is not the case...