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caki 01-12-2005 16:42

Svenske means Swedish in Swedish I think.

DABhand 01-12-2005 16:58

Locutus is the original maker of Dtools

HBush 02-12-2005 06:58

Cracking starforce
 
Starforce is crackable till version 3.4.71 with my games. that would be Splinter Cell 3 e.g. Kig Kong is still to be tested. As to the discussion I´d say try this!---:


Allright , here is an easy (easier) way to get Splinter Cell 3 and other games running up till Version 3.4.71 something (Splinter Cell 3): You must have Daemon Tools 4 installed! I couldn´t get it to run with Alc120% (probably my own fault Daemon´s the one I know and its free so why bother...


1. Create an MDF image with ALcohol 120 (DPM high)from original disk. Only one working so far...
Install game, from image

2. Get Sfnightmare 1.12 http://starf.bestmedia.kiev.ua

You might want to add http://rapidshare.de/files/5750600/sfcure01c.zip.html to the registry. I don´t know if you really need it. I was on my PC already .Couldn´t get rid of it to test without so it could be neccessary!? If you decide to take it,edit the reg as described in readme.txt (!) FIRST then setup.

3.Now simply mount image in Daemon tools.

4. Start SFnightmare now. Set Disable CDs+Disable Node, that´s all.

5. Start game with regular desktop icon, exe, whatever,it works...

You do not need to unplug the CD Drives as I thought before. It works with "disable Cds" as well.
If it doesn´t in your case which I think is unlikely you need to unplug the Drives manually of course.then it definetily works. I must put emphazis again on creating Alc120& images ONLY. Use sfcure01 for "safety reasons". Maybe you try without it first so we can see if it´s neccessary to do so!

Next one is King Kong, actually the only Starforce game left right now. This is no fraud it works! What you need is an MDF image, that´s basically it.I use the patched SPlinter Cell 3 version (1.05 now). Works (with any update,. any game up till now...)!
PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES!!! (here)

Muji-FightR 02-12-2005 07:06

have you already tried this w/ GT Legends ? Would be great to hear it works ;)
it has SF 3.6.10, dunno if its possible to get it run without unplugging drives, i just use the original as unplugging drives is no real option for me.

synchro_w 02-12-2005 09:51

i actually unplugged my dvd drive, and now ufo aftershock says it doesn't recognise my serial. which is weird cos it did before. i uninstalled the game, created an image, installed it, and, as i said, the serial key no longer works.
i should say that i did a regclean and also manually removed the cenega folder with the starforce stuff etc on it. possibly this is why my serial no longer works? but i don't think so.

the starforce protection is a nightmare for me personally as it often takes 4-10 minutes to check i have a proper dvd inside my drive when i wanna play the game. this is ridiculous. the same happened with gangland. it took so long for my drive to verify that i just lost interest. i mean, waiting 10 minutes to play a game is taking 'protection' too far]. and, not only that, but sometimes after a 10 minute wait, the check would fail and i would have to start al over again.
suffice to say, i no longer play gangland anymore. would you?
now i got the same issue with ufo aftershock. i'm giving it until monday before i return it for a refund [or swap for summat else].
i have a phillips dvd drive. sadly.

oddly enough heroes of ww2 works fine. but i don't know for certain whether it is SF protected [i think it is as someone on these forums mentioned it].

das

Grumpy 02-12-2005 10:22

@synchro
Quote:

heroes of ww2 works fine. but i don't know for certain whether it is SF protected
Yep, it is! ;)

DarkStar782 02-12-2005 23:03

Is it me or has someone committed a bit of thread necromancy here? (reply #9 is 4 months after #8 lol)

Quote:

I'm not sure, but in Germany if you do ANYTHING to bypass copy proctections they can sue you. Its much stricter that in the US. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. I AM NOT SURE.
I have no idea either, but it seems to me you could base a reasonable defence around 1:1 copies (I think Blindwrite can currently make such disks) and to a lesser extent Emulation, because you are not 'breaking' or 'bypassing' the copy protection, it is still active, it just thinks you are using an original...

I know how Synchro feels about SF, I couldnt get X3 Reunion to run from the original when I first bought it (before I made any attempt whatsoever to back it up), In the end it trasnpired that it was caused by the *lightest* fingerprint imaginable on the disk.

To me this is just absurd. That any CP system should be that fussy about a media that is so easily scratched etc is pathetic, especially as I have NEVER known a CP system that cannot be either cracked, emulated, or 1:1 backed up, meaning that all the CP achieves is pissing of us legitimate customers.

NITROUS SYSTEM 03-12-2005 04:21

Starforce protection was always the best around....

hyakkii 03-12-2005 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by NITROUS SYSTEM
Starforce protection was always the best around....

Actully its pretty horrible people think it does its job good but in reality all you have to do is unplug your cdroms cause of its blacklist of scsi devices (emulators). and it will work (with dt4 or/ sfcure and a 1:1 image) ..and if it doesn't then its most likely the original wont work either or some kind of conflict happening maybe even being online.

The only thing stoping it from being cracked is its encryption and files that are encrypted (it can be every file on the game or just one) and to break the encryption depending on luck (and level) can take 1 day to 4 years of trying to brute forcing and even if they somehow crack the encryption they would have to play the game a million times to find trigger points. plus starforce has many other headaches its really not worth anyones time. also if they did manage to make a crack the file would be "very" large perhaps the size if the game :)

The worst thing about starforce is future compatibility, its intrusiveness and stealth installing drivers :\

HBush 03-12-2005 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by muJi.fiGHt3r
have you already tried this w/ GT Legends ? Would be great to hear it works ;)
it has SF 3.6.10, dunno if its possible to get it run without unplugging drives, i just use the original as unplugging drives is no real option for me.

No I didn´t but I now got Splinter Cell 3 working with the latest update (1.05)actually very easy to do. I cracked all games up till 3.71 now so far. So Gt Legends should work....shouldn´t it?

What you need is a 100% Alc120 mdf image(DPM high) + Daemon tools 4+ sfnightmare. So get your original disk and make an image with alc120.Use Disable Cd´s and Disable Nodes and remove any disks from drives (you don´t need to unplug them)Forget Starfu**!

If it doesn´t work try to get sfcure01 (see link in former post) and add to reg as described in readme.txt. but it should work.

After using Sfnightmare my Drives weren´t recognized when I started windows. I had to enabloe them althuough I wasn´t runnign the program (I think) but then everythin was fine again. Maybe that has somehting to do with that serial request thing...?Now any Game I got works great,...

I don´t know exactly, but it took me less power and energy to get these games running instead of searching for nocd patches for the latest updates all over the place+ Starforce is not that big. How many games aren´t working? I only have King Kong and Knights of the temple 2 left to test of all the poupluar ones...so!?
Experinece shows that when you search a little on the web youi´ll find something. then comcine what you already got and see!

HBush 03-12-2005 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by synchro_w
i actually unplugged my dvd drive, and now ufo aftershock says it doesn't recognise my serial. which is weird cos it did before. i uninstalled the game, created an image, installed it, and, as i said, the serial key no longer works.
i should say that i did a regclean and also manually removed the cenega folder with the starforce stuff etc on it. possibly this is why my serial no longer works? but i don't think so.

the starforce protection is a nightmare for me personally as it often takes 4-10 minutes to check i have a proper dvd inside my drive when i wanna play the game. this is ridiculous. the same happened with gangland. it took so long for my drive to verify that i just lost interest. i mean, waiting 10 minutes to play a game is taking 'protection' too far]. and, not only that, but sometimes after a 10 minute wait, the check would fail and i would have to start al over again.
suffice to say, i no longer play gangland anymore. would you?
now i got the same issue with ufo aftershock. i'm giving it until monday before i return it for a refund [or swap for summat else].
i have a phillips dvd drive. sadly.

oddly enough heroes of ww2 works fine. but i don't know for certain whether it is SF protected [i think it is as someone on these forums mentioned it].

das

I had the same problem with Chrome Specforce. It always does that. I stopped worrying nd did this:

Only thing I did was an MDF aLC120 image (DPM high), mount in Daemon tools 4 and disable nodes+ cd´s in Starforce Nightmare and the request vanished! That was it! Maybe it has to do with adding sfcure01 to registry but I´m not sure. I first thought its STarfu** that does the trick but it runs without it . Maybe you sould try that!

Ps: I didn´t unplug any drives instead I used the disable cd button and removed any disk from the drive.

HBush 03-12-2005 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyakkii
Actully its pretty horrible people think it does its job good but in reality all you have to do is unplug your cdroms cause of its blacklist of scsi devices (emulators). and it will work (with dt4 or/ sfcure and a 1:1 image) ..and if it doesn't then its most likely the original wont work either or some kind of conflict happening maybe even being online.

The worst thing about starforce is future compatibility, its intrusiveness and stealth installing drivers :\

EXACTLY!! It´s not that big!Go gaming!!

I agree. They´ll have to change the moment sales go down(again) .I´m sure of this...and if they don´t its not gonna work anyhow!!!haha

kre 03-12-2005 22:31

One Question: does it matter for successfully running a SF-protected game if I install it before from Original or by the Alc image? I remember having read this in somewhere forums.

Jackie7 04-12-2005 02:44

hello,
One question: your splinter cell 3 should be U.S version or Europian version.
Does it have any difference??

TippeX 04-12-2005 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyakkii
The only thing stoping it from being cracked is its encryption and files that are encrypted (it can be every file on the game or just one) and to break the encryption depending on luck (and level) can take 1 day to 4 years of trying to brute forcing and even if they somehow crack the encryption they would have to play the game a million times to find trigger points. plus starforce has many other headaches its really not worth anyones time. also if they did manage to make a crack the file would be "very" large perhaps the size if the game :)

put simply, bull****.. dont believe the hype, 1 day to 4 years, where the hell did u pick that figure from cos theres quite difference, as for 'trigger' points, starforce uses virtual files and vm, securom (v5) used triggers.. get your facts right please


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