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Old 13-11-2000, 20:24
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SOME DISK JUGGLER SOLUTIONS!!!!!!!!!!NEWBIES OR OLDIES

it seem most of you are having the same problems over and over, some of you i have been able to help, while others have not been so lucky.
i'm going to go over the basic things you should do to get disk juggler to work, and i would appreciate anyone else's help that has usefull info. when you are done reading this i beg you to please post a reply at the bottom...say anything, but that way this message will stay on the boards for eveyone to read when they enter.
onto the solutions.

FIRST: IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BURN A CDI DC IMAGE WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN DISK JUGGLER 2.X.....YOU'LL HAVE A NICE COASTER TO SET YOUR DRINKS ON....SO MAKE SURE IT IS DJ 2.X

SECOND: UPDATE THE ASPI DRIVER AT WWW.ADAPTEK.COM OR USE THE GENERIC DJ DRIVER FOUND AT WWW.DCCOPYWORLD.COM

THIRD: MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER SUPPORTS MULTI SESSION WRITING..ONE WAY TO CHECK IS BY TURNING ON CDRWIN, GOTO "RECORD DISK" LOOK AT THE BOTTOM..IF YOU SEE THE "OPEN NEW SESSION" GREYED OUT UNDER "RECORDING OPTIONS"...WELL.....YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK.(YOU CAN BURN GAMES THAT ARE NOT SELF BOOT THOUGH).

FOURTH:ONCE YOU HAVE ALL THAT DONE OPEN DJ...
BURNING A UNRARED IMAGE:
1 GOTO "FILE", "NEW"" AND CHOOSE "CD IMAGE TO CD RECORDER"
2 HIT THE "SOURCE" BUTTON, FIND YOUR CDI/ISO IMAGE AND HIT "OK"
3 MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER IS IN DESTINATION
4 MOVE THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X OR SLOWER...(JUST TO BE SAFE), AND PUT "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" BOX..OR "TEST AND IF OK WRITE"
5 HIT THE "ADVANCED" TAB...THIS MAY NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SOME , BUT I HAVE LESS PROBLEMS WHEN I CHOOSE THESE SETTINGS
MODE: MODE1
BLOCK: 2336 OR 2368 (MAY VARY ON BURNERS)
OFFSET:0
TOC: CD-ROM
DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING CHECKED IN THE "MISC"
6 MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT RUNNING OTHER APPS, YOU WANT YOUR HARD DRIVE TO BE ABLE TO SPIT THE INFO THE THE BURNER WITH OUT ANY PROBLEMS.
7 HIT START AND PRAY......

MAKING A BACK-UP OF A DC GAME ON DISK

FIRST FOLLOW ALL THE STEPS ABOVE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE "FILE", "NEW", NOW HIT "CD COPY FROM SAME RECODER"
ALSO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK YOU MUST TURN OFF THE "CD AUTO INSERT" ON YOUR COMP. TO CHECK THIS GOTO "START", "SETTINGS", "CONTROL PANEL", "SYSTEM"..HIT THE "DEVICE MANAGER" TAB..GOTO "CD ROM" HIT THE "SETTINGS" TAB MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT A CHECK IN THE "AUTO INSERT NOTIFICATION" BOX. DO THIS FOR YOUR READER AND BURNER. (RESTART YOUR COMP)

OK ONCE YOU'RE BACK PUT THE GAME YOU WANT TO COPY IN YOUR BURNER PUT THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X AND "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" SLOT HIT START.
DJ WILL START MAKING A TEMP IMAGE OF THE GAME. WHEN IT IS DONE IT WILL KICK OUT THE GAME. PUT A BLANK 80MIN CD IN THE BURNER, CLOSE THE TRAY, LET THE BURNER GET SET...THIS IS IMPORTANY, BECAUSE 80% OF THE TIME IF YOU HIT "OK" RIGHT AFTER YOU CLOSE THE CD TRAY IT WILL FAIL...WHY?..I DON'T KNOW, SO JUST WAIT THE 6 SECONDS OR SO THEN HIT "OK"... IN 20 MINUTES YOU SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF THE GAME.

A COMMON ERROR MESSAGE IS "BUFFER UNDER RUN" THAT MEANS YOUR HARD DRIVE OR CDROM( IF GOING CD TO CD) IS NOT GETTING INFO TO THE BURNER FAST ENOUGH, SO THE BURNER STOPS FUNCTIONING.....THE MOST COMMON WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS SLOW DOWN YOUR WRITING SPEED, SO THE BURNER ISN'T WRITING THE INFO FASTER THAN IT'S GETTING IT, ALSO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR COMP THAT REQUIRES YOUR HARD DRIVE TO WORK (SO CLOSE ALL APPS )

THE SCARIEST PART IS RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST SESSION, IF YOU GET PAST THIS PART TO THE 10% MARK..IT SHOULD BE SMOOTH FROM THERE..UNLESS YOU MESS WITH YOU COMP, HAVE A POWER OUTTAGE, OR YOU KID COMES OVER AND PUSHES THE BUTTONS ON YOUR COMP(I HAVE THAT PROBLEM)
HOPE THIS HELPS EVERYON....
GOOD LUCK
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Old 13-11-2000, 20:51
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keep this alive and post a reply

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Old 13-11-2000, 21:31
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thx man i read the post it sounds good i have done all those things yet still it says buffer underrun. i am gettin very pisssed but i am goin to figure thisout. i have killed 20 cds already well lets keep goin damnit!!! i have updated aspi32 drivers. but one thing i dont get is this i have burnt dc games before using cdi image files and it worked fine. But i know my damn cd rw supports multisession but that "open new session" is glossed out. i guess its weird. nyway if ny one wants 4424 for $160 let me know heheh better get the plextor then. thx big man and if u need dc hookups let me know. i have more Dc hookups but i cant burn them bummer. just join irc.relic.net and #dcast u find me there or my boys will help u just drop my name Gugla

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Old 14-11-2000, 14:36
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I am completely new to all of this sh..t but thanks to the post you made papa, I feel i know what to do without trouble.. this dreamcast burnin is soo much harder than burning Gaystation games which i burn for my friends...

thanks again
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Old 14-11-2000, 19:30
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thank you guys for you replies

gulga: im not sure whats going on over there, but we need to get it fixed....20 cds is way too many icq me and put your name "gulga" in...i'll see if i can help you out.

mesz: i hope things get easier for you, but you're right, dc games can be a b*tch to burn....good luck, and look back here for help.
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Old 14-11-2000, 23:39
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me too man byte said i have the same thingi have burnt cdi images before np but know its a problem. thx
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Old 15-11-2000, 01:03
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ok guys this is what i have noticed...some of the self boot games that use kalistos initial technique seem to be able to be copied fine by most people, however there are 2 other self boot techniques used by release groups that seem to give trouble to you guys..(even me), i use psxcopy to make disk to disk back ups and only certain games come out right...i'll need to look into this a bit more......that's all for now...
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Old 15-11-2000, 05:11
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I´m new to this board but I can allready see that you´re really trying to help people out Big Papa. Continue with that, you´re doing a great job. However I was wondering if anyone that gets "illegal field" in DJ has manage to get it to work? I have the Matshita 7502 with the firmware v4.17 and I constantly get "illegal field" when there´s a track that is 300 sectors. It has come to this point when I´m planning to buy a new CD-R and give the old one away as a christmas gift to my parents. Anyone know how to get the 7502 to work or can recommend another burner to me?
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Old 15-11-2000, 12:01
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Big Papa......on my cdrwin, 'open new session' is grayed out, so that means i can't burn self boot games...is their any way to exploit this, and burn self boot games?
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Old 15-11-2000, 12:11
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Big papa, i want to thank you for the time you put into this forum to help all of us, and i suggest more people reply to this, so that this topic stays up, and big papa continues to help us....again thanx big papa, i really appreciate what you've done for me...
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Old 15-11-2000, 20:55
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Ok, first of all, thanks, Big Papa, for taking the time to help everyone out in the forums. It's really appreciated by people like me who are just now getting into this.

Now, down to the problem... I'm having trouble with DiscJuggler and my Memorex CDRW2642... I keep getting those dang buffer under-run errors, even after messing with all the options, disabling all background apps and so forth.... So, I'm wondering if there are any other CDR programs out there that you can make successful DC backups with. Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help, all.
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Old 15-11-2000, 21:01
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My thing is greyed out too
I was wondering, isn't there anyway to convert those damn CDI into bin/cue?
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Old 15-11-2000, 22:35
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thank you everyone who has replied to these posts..
i really appreciate it, im about to post a couple new ones for those of you that can burn the cdi files, but they dont seem to work...
and for "crackass"...it wouldn't matter if you can convert the cdi to bin/cue, because you need that "greyed out box" to be functional...sorry
but to answer you question...yes you can convert them..use the "cdirip" program...
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Old 16-11-2000, 14:07
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Can someone name off some games that require the boot disk, since my p.o.s burner won't let me writer multiple sessions, and i won't waste my time downloading self boot games, and come to find out i can't burn them without buying a whole new burner. heh, im frustrated.....anyway can someone name off some 'decent' games that require the boot disk...Thanx....
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Old 16-11-2000, 16:17
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So, you're basically telling me that I CAN NOT burn if that thing is grey?? Well, I don't understand. I've been able to burn Some games that come in Cuesheet format and some bins. What I basicaly did was load the cueshet and thats it, the game woul burn, so I'm asking, isn't thee a way to convert the CDI into a cuesheet? so my burner would be able to copy it anyway?
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