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Question LZMA vs LOLZ & Scan Compress Method

I have some questions about LZMA & LOLZ

Q1) I want to know which one is better?

Q2) i want to know what is 256m, & what it does?

lzma:a1:mfbt4:256m:fb273:mc1000000000:lc 8

Q3) how do i scan and find the Compression like Oodle game?

I know how to find Oodle games. But i don't know how to find none Oodle games so help me please.
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1. Depends on the file
2. 256m is dictionary size (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ttings-details)
3. Use Game File Scanner for non-Oodle games
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1. Depends on the file
2. 256m is dictionary size (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ttings-details)
3. Use Game File Scanner for non-Oodle games
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If i change 256m to 2048m?
it will give me better ratio.
I have test it.

If i use 2048m,
For decompression
at least require 2GB ram
Right?

can you please tell me, where is that
Game File Scanner and how to use it.
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are you that lazy to type in the search ?
https://www.fileforums.com/showthrea...e+File+Scanner
No I'm not lazy i jave try too hard. I have search i didn't see it so i though asking it thanks anyway.

Can you please tell me about 256mb?
That link didn't mentioned it.

200m mean 2100Mb ram?
I have seen it in reflate thread.. explain please bro.
Tou know lot of stuffs si please share..
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if you use lzma without fazip you limited to 184mb
to use d2048mb you need to use fazip, but in compression need 20gb of ram...

[External compressor:rep,mm,exe,dispack070,4x4,lzma]
header = 0
packcmd = FAZip.exe -i0 compress:{compressor}{ption} <stdin> <stdout>
Thanks bro i really appreciate your help...

Yes i have always use FAZip.exe 64 version,
on UA R6 Diskspan.
Its perfect everything is set.

So i have 32GB DDR4 RAM,
i can go up to more right?
Its calculate like 200mx10.5=2100m right?

If i use more ram for compression can i decompress with under 4GB ram?
Without any error? Or
decompress need same memory?

If i use more ram for compressing i can get better ratio and i can finish the job faster right?
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so what do you think the d short for
lzma is limited to 2 thread alone decompresion speed around 40-50 mb,
Im not expert with compression
and i still don't understand what you mean.

Please tell me in simple way.
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For make your life easier ,i think you should stick with

Srep:a8:m5f:l512+lolz:d384m:mt2

Its more than enough/overkill for almost all games.
Maybe u can use some precompressor ,like x/ztool/pzlib,etc.

Sorry for my style ,i dont want to be rude.
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i7 8700k cpu
Code:
6C 12T;)

192 Best results.

#4x4
192m(Dictionary)x12Tx12= 28 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#4x4:t8:b128m:lzma:a1:mfbt4:256m:fb273:mc1024:lc8
256m(Dictionary) x 12T x t8 = 24 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#lolz
~ mt threads(-mt[1..16])
192m(Dictionary) x 12T x mt* =...

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For make your life easier ,i think you should stick with

Srep:a8:m5f:l512+lolz:d384m:mt2

Its more than enough/overkill for almost all games.
Maybe u can use some precompressor ,like x/ztool/pzlib,etc.

Sorry for my style ,i dont want to be rude.
Regards...
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Code:
6C 12T;)

192 Best results.

#4x4
192m(Dictionary)x12Tx12= 28 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#4x4:t8:b128m:lzma:a1:mfbt4:256m:fb273:mc1024:lc8
256m(Dictionary) x 12T x t8 = 24 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#lolz
~ mt threads(-mt[1..16])
192m(Dictionary) x 12T x mt* =...
I don't understand this... Cause I'm new to this.
and I don't use LOLZ, cause it's taking too long.
Please tell one thing. *FAZIP* 64bit use cpu only 25%
How can i let it use 75%? It will be faster if FAZIP use 75% cpu

and i have try LZMA with 2048MB
for compression it used 21000MB 21GB..
still compressing... after it done I'll try to decompress with 4GB Ram and see what happens.
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For make your life easier ,i think you should stick with

Srep:a8:m5f:l512+lolz:d384m:mt2

Its more than enough/overkill for almost all games.
Maybe u can use some precompressor ,like x/ztool/pzlib,etc.

Sorry for my style ,i dont want to be rude.
Regards...
Right, In fact all these problems with a pre-processor of compression (srep), except if there are problems of compression or decompression for inefficient systems (Hardware) or other, I personally all these problems I would not make them, remaining stick with to a single command option.
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Using "7z.exe/lzma2" as the final compressor I would recommend this option:

Code:
a -txz -an -mcrc=0 -m1=lzma2:d512m:fb=273:mf=bt4:mc=999999999:lc=4:lp=0 -mmt=2 -mx9
Using "LZMA" as a final compression in a single option with a good compression ratio I recommend this:

Code:
-a1 -d27 -fb273 -mc999999999 -lc8 -lp4 -mfbt4 -mt8
Well with "LOLZ", so far today I have not found a good compromise of a good speed and a satisfactory compression threshold in relation to a higher speed.
With lolz continues to do your tests are of interest to everyone.

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Using "7z.exe/lzma2" as the final compressor I would recommend this option:

Code:
a -txz -an -mcrc=0 -m1=lzma2:d512m:fb=273:mf=bt4:mc=999999999:lc=4:lp=0 -mmt=2 -mx9
Using "LZMA" as a final compression in a single option with a good compression ratio I recommend this:

Code:
-a1 -d27 -fb273 -mc999999999 -lc8 -lp4 -mfbt4 -mt8
Well with "LOLZ", so far today I have not found a good compromise of a good speed and a satisfactory compression threshold in relation to a higher speed.
With lolz continues to do your tests are of interest to everyone.

https://www.fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=102311
I always Use FAZIP 64 for LZMA so i need to know about it. I don't need 7z cause i will never use it.

So please FAZip64 LZMA info please..
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