HOW TO BURN A GC-DISC step by step manual :-) - Page 5

spooki · #61 05-01-2003, 07:11

Prassi, Discjuggler etc. won't be able to read the gamecube games as they are in an encrypted format so even if you could read them they wouldn't write successfully.

Ever tried just doing a straight copy of a DVD Video without using Smartripper or DVD Decryptor first to unencrypt the disc ?.

PS2 discs are not encrypted so your methods work fine on those DVD's but Nintendo unfortunately have been a bit smarter with their copy protection.

The only way to read GC discs will be from the GC itself and transferring to PC.

ThAD0oD · #62 05-01-2003, 14:17

ah

i guess thats what Enigma is trying to do

aDoL_iVxX · #63 06-01-2003, 17:31

What sort of encryption does the GC employ? Cause encryption shouldn't matter one bit if you're doing a RAW copy... bit-4-bit, straight copy of WHATEVER data is on the disc, either a 0 or a 1

Too bad CDRwin 3.9 doesn't work with DVD; I'd try doing a RAW read, ignoring errors, etc... just like the old PSX

You can make a bit-4-bit RAW copy of an XBoX DVD, and the only thing that'll stop it from playing is (I believe) a authenticity check to determine whether or not the disc is "original"- easily circumvented any number of ways.

Does fireburner work with DVDs? How about DiskDumper? Oh, and has anyone tried using a non-Micro$oft OS, like Linux... I've seen programs for Linux (I don't use it yet, I'm a loser I know...) that allow you change the tracking speed of the laser lens, for cripes sake! There's gotta be something there, yknow?

aDoL_iVxX

spooki · #64 07-01-2003, 10:35

Simple copying software is not going to work on the GC discs, if it did then ISO's would be everywhere by now. If simple RAW reading would get around the encryption schemes like CSS then why after about 2 years of DVD burning do you still have to rip movie discs instead of doing just a straight copy ??

Quite a few of the cracking groups looked at it and gave up and as far as i know only one managed to get ISO's but that was from sniffing the gamecubes internal IDE port and transferring to PC. There are some ISO's out there but not on general release as they are awaiting a modchip to be able to boot them.

One of the big hurdles to get past is the variable depth barcode that is on the disc as this is needed by the GC to be able to boot the discs.

Just be patient and you'll see some big progress very soon !!!

aDoL_iVxX · #65 07-01-2003, 11:40

In a reply to another post on this site, someone (i forget who, sorry

) said that they measured the laser lens travel area, and found that it couldn't even REACH the barcode area... then they drew over the barcode with black marker and the game still booted normally...

and also, a RAW recording DOES work with what you're talking about... with my pioneer a03 DVD-R, if I get a DVD movie and do a straight 1:1 RAW copy, the resulting DVD-R will play perfectly in every DVD player I've tried... the only problem is that DVD movies are generally bigger than 4.7GB now, and the cost of blank DVD-R media makes it not worth my while... I could rent the movie for $5, and copy it for another $5, but I might as well buy it for $14.99

Also, I found some interesting stuff out since I've been researching about some new programs that are designed to circumvent newer protections schemes.... if anything works, I'll let you know

Also, does anybody actually know what the GameCube really uses as its copy protection scheme? Share, will ya'?

aDoL_iVxX

lufcfan · #66 07-01-2003, 11:58

I know this is a little off topic but I think that in the next GameBoy, Nintendo should use the Mini-DVD in that too. What do you think? We might get wuite a good game out of one then...

spooki · #67 07-01-2003, 12:24

The GC laser CAN travel far enough to read the barcode and if you mark over it the game will NOT boot. Lots of people were saying that the GC span it's discs backwards (anti-clockwise) but you only need to open up a GC to see that it's not true.

What most people don't seem to know is that there are two barcodes on the disc, You have a standard one near the centre (this one does absolutely nothing) and then the different coloured ring next to this is also a form of barcode as well (you need to look at it extremely closely) , this is the one that the GC needs to read.

So what program do you use to do your 1:1 RAW DVD copies ?

Seven O Two · #68 07-01-2003, 23:16

i believe that program would be 321 studios dvdxcopy

spooki · #69 08-01-2003, 08:22

If it is then it doesn't do 1:1 RAW copies at all as it decrypts the disc first, removing the CSS encrytion.

aDoL_iVxX · #70 08-01-2003, 13:57

When I make 1:1 DVD copies RAW, it's usually RecordNow MAX or DiscJuggler 4... works for all 4.7GB sized DVD movies and PS2 games...

aDoL_iVxX

#71 31-01-2003, 15:56

Hi i've got both a gamecube and a dvd burner (pioneer a104)

Trouble is after buying them im now skint, send me a small dvd and i'll let you know if it works.....

#72 31-01-2003, 16:26

I ve tried doing a straight copy of a dvd movie trouble is there too big to fit on a 4.7 gb disc. i think the original dvd's are multi layered.
hence the reason for ripping to remove the crap you dont want subtitles french german spanish zwarheley languages to cut down on space..

Markiss614 · #73 02-03-2003, 03:11

Think Dreamcast.

The Dreamcast used a Format much like the GC games. SEGA's GD-Roms were also read from the outside of the disc.

Markiss614 · #74 02-03-2003, 03:14

I also dont think Nintendo is stupid enough to rely on their disc format as being the only protection. They should have learned from SEGA's mistake.

Cyber Akuma · #75 02-03-2003, 03:16

So the only way to get the data on GameCube cds would be to somehow make the GameCube a slave device and connect it to the pc, like they did with dreamcast?