1:1 Copy of UT2003?

Originally posted by RincewindTheWiz
All this talk about simply copying Securom New makes me wonder : how are the guys in question sure that their discs are protected with securom in the first place ? With safedisc 2 there are some files in the main cd directory that you can look for, and clonyxxl recognizes them, but is there a way to determine that securom new was used ? I'm beginning to think that only some regions have protected cd's, and the others have unprotected cd's. To verify this we have to determine that the guys with easy copies that work, actually have protected discs. Can ClonyXXL scan for Securom New ? I've tried it a few times with my Warcraft III original, but it didn't find anything. I know for sure that there have been games in the past that came out with safedisc 2 in Europe and unprotected in the USA.

Good point!

[Cracker2k3]

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[Mister Hack]

The UT2k3-Version i own is for sure protected with Securom (Version 4.83.55.0017 to be exact). But nonetheless i managed to BURN A 1:1 COPY!
For all of you wondering how: I used the Blindwrite Suite Version 4.2.2.12 to do the Job including the "Physical CD characteristic dumper". And it worked!
Okay, it heavily searches on the copy when starting the game, so it´s not a perfect copy at all, but after a while it finds enough "good" physical structures on the copy to bypass the protection.

[Machina]

If a copy works, and no NO-CD crack is needed - why want a 1:1 copy? Whats the difference then?

[Machina]

why can't you make a copy from a copy and what do you mean by BLACKLISTED?

[dusted]

Vluka is right about the not being able to make a copy from the copy.

Try and backup your copy using the process u did to create it and you'll see what is meant.

[blackcheck]

'Cause it's not 1:1? As for blacklist - Sony can render those copies unusable with any upcoming SecuROM revision - maybe next update to Your favourite game will have it and copy of that game may stop working with that update.

uhm,i was just wondering how would you reliably detect twin sectors with the same content? the only way i could imagine
would be by reading the data track as audio. but only very few drives can do that.

btw amplified weak sectors are no 1:1 copy either. you can detect it very easily. on lots of drives you can even tell real (c2) bad sectors from faked ( clonecd's wrong edc sectors ) bad sectors.

the reason that sd2 doesnt check this is simple: compatibility...

[Machina]

Aha, I think I get it. I don't like Sony though, I like copies!

[elementour]

so in general can you make a 1:1 copy of any of the latest games ? and if not what is the best possible senareo where you can install and run the game from the copied cd and possibly make a copy from the copy too.