Lost Empire Immortals

[TippeX]

well hmm, if the image worked for v 1.0, 1.1 of the game, then it stands to reason the image is ok, so it has to be an update in the protection.. perhaps mini/maxi images dont work anymore for this flavor of securom... i haven't got the game, so i can't check further sadly..

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Zulu

It ain't unless you edit some Reg keys, or wait for next DT release ..... or use custom versions

Cheeky :P

Made full image not a problem, but mini-image is becoming a pain. Tried with various hardware and of course the modded DT files I have. Even tried to zero out the tracks to leave the Topography and TOC.

Im sure something will pop up along me travels to allow me to get a working mini-image.

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Made full image not a problem, but mini-image is becoming a pain. Tried with various hardware ...

You have a working full image, so creating a working Mini (for Securom CDs: Maxi) shouldn't depend on hardware anymore

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Zulu

You have a working full image, so creating a working Mini (for Securom CDs: Maxi) shouldn't depend on hardware anymore

I already did try that, I did say I zero'd out the tracks to leave the topography and TOC.

There has to be something else to it rather than just topography reading. Something in a file on the CD or a specific track.

[Zulu]

@DABHand
To my foreign ears it sounded like it still depends on hardware to create the working mini though you already have a working full one.

Do you get Securom error 4003 with your Mini ?

[Bollo]

Yeap...you're almost there to have a working mini-image...will try to figure out if there's a file or something else that the protection checks...

See ya..

Bollo

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Zulu

@DABHand
To my foreign ears it sounded like it still depends on hardware to create the working mini though you already have a working full one.

Do you get Securom error 4003 with your Mini ?

Bog standard "Please insert" after 4 mins of checking.

[Zulu]

@DABHand
When you get "Please insert the original disc instead of a backup" message it's primarily (maybe only - if there is no ISO check) a topology problem.
Missing ISO check sectors would produce error 4003 - if topology check passed successfully.

You don't necessarily need complete TOC; for most Securom titles it's even better to insert zeroes from sector 17.

[DABhand]

Full image works ok, quick authentication and start up, zero'd it takes 4mins+ to even authenticate and finallys gives the "please insert" message.

This leads me to believe that there is something more to it all than just the topography.

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by DABhand

This leads me to believe that there is something more to it all than just the topography.

If you have a Buslogger i can PM you how Securom ISO check works.

EDIT: if you're using a raw image you may not zero EDC/ECC/SUB fields; the 4 minutes make me consider that

[DABhand]

Beta Patch 1.03 can still be run via the cracked 1.02 loader.exe, although there is some improvements, there is other bugs present, at this moment unfortunately the game is very unplayable to be honest.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Zulu

If you have a Buslogger i can PM you how Securom ISO check works.

EDIT: if you're using a raw image you may not zero EDC/ECC/SUB fields; the 4 minutes make me consider that

I wasnt using raw this time, although I did try and it failed majorly.

I just feel there is more to this version of Securom that is very sneaky.

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by DABhand

I just feel there is more to this version of Securom that is very sneaky.

Provided german version has same check there isn't more ... fortunately

Compressed Maxi Image Download
Uncompressed Maxi Image Download (might work for some with DT 4.06)

Will upload to GCW when next DT got released.

EDIT: this title doesn't show error codes

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Zulu

EDIT: this title doesn't show error codes

Yeah hence why I said bog standard "please insert" msg

[Bollo]

Yeap....with the latest daemon it only shows the "Disc Emulation detected"...perhaps using YASU or another tool...

Hope the blacklisting be fixed in the next release of daemon...

Thanks...see ya!

Bollo