Scandalous news about Starforce

[dede]

Hi! Friend's Excellent new's & thank for german link, i am french but i anderstand bether german as english.
Now is time, for the publisher of this game, Stardock to crack all starfoce protected games and to send the link to cracks on torrent sides, only a game publisher can easy crack games and now stardock have a motivation.
Have fun, if you like good games speed performances, don't buy starsh*t protected.

[Joe Forster/STA]

In 2100, our descendants will either be living on a planet run by monopolies - not democratrical goverments! - and you'll have to pay even each time you fart, for environment pollution (worst case), or will be laughing at us arguing about free or paid software as software will be, by default, free then and only user support will be charged for (best case).

[Edit] You see, many of you are talking about theft and digital rights (both that of the publisher and that of the customer) as if they were absolute and not the result of the constantly changing culture of mankind. Those people are seriously wrong, although this fact doesn't become apparent in a mere lifetime... Oofff, thus I spoke!

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

Just a comment DABhand. I have read a lot from u, and perfecfty know ur point of view, but in this case, where do u live? Nigeria?
There is something called inocence principle, that, basically states all people is inocence till the oposite is demonstrated.
It is evident SOME copies will be originally stolen for different reasons, but in my case, for example, and i dont think i'm an alien, i can download a game ( if i should), test it, enjoy, and BUY if like enough. There is no prize on a good manual, and package (Neverwinter nights/Spellforce for example), and another games are good enough that package does not matter a lot ( Soldiers of anarchy which IS NOT PROTECTED in SPANISH version, and package is awful (non-existant manual and a virgin black case with some paper inside a hard paper)) so i buy it.

Considering it, and regarding ur thoughts, i must be ET.

Morg

No your Portugese :P

I mean Spanish :P

[Bidness]

Originally Posted by DABhand

No your Portugese :P

I mean Spanish :P

And you're a prick :P

[Joe Forster/STA]

Please, everyone keep forum rule #7 in mind, thank you!

[Spellfive]

Lets not forget the main argument here.
I like car examples, if, for the reason that cars do get stolen quite often companies invent protective mechanisms that hinder distribution, sales and popularity of cars, they`d be quite stupid.
Peer to peer is an excellent way of distributing software. The designers of starforce are of the opinion its best to ruin this innovation by forcing their opinion upon GalCiv II, simply cuz they dont pay.
I think starforce is prolly russian mafia.

[I_Will_Never_Die]

did someone post this on shoutwire.com yet?

[rlsuth]

More bad press: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145864.html

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Bidness

And you're a prick :P

And You cant read english to see the joke.

How unfortunate you didnt goto school

[GilFuin]

Originally Posted by rlsuth

More bad press: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145864.html

Interesting to read:

GS: Why did Stardock opt not to use traditional industry-accepted forms of copy protection?

BW: It's only industry-accepted in the PC game industry--the industry that people are regularly saying is "doomed." Most of our business is in the application software market (the market that no one argues is "doomed"), and such copy protection measures are not used. I don't have to keep my Adobe Photoshop CD in the drive to use it.

We simply applied the PC application software model of IP protection to our games--release the game with no CD-based copy protection and include a unique serial number that they need to use in order to obtain updates...

GS: Will this change your approach to copy protection in the future?

BW: Not at all. As I type this, EBGames has released their top-selling PC games from last week. Galactic Civilizations II was number one. So if piracy is such a menace, it's not apparently affecting us to the degree that some say it should.

That's the point. The best protection is a valid serial number, so you can't play online if you are not a legal user.Copy protections can be justified for games which only have single player mode, but not for multiplayer games calling for a serial anyway. Only the existence of these numbers can force people to spend money in a (good) game despite they could got it illegally.

Again, Starforce can't argue nothing, failling to remember "a few" SF games which can be played from a copy.

[Anti669]

Originally Posted by I_Will_Never_Die

If you know anything about business, you can never gain a loss or a profit on a market that doesnt have the money to buy your products. That simple.

If you can afford a $1000 PC, then you can afford a $50 game. That simple.
If you own a PC which can run F.E.A.R., then chances are you're not too poor to buy it.
What does your "Higher Logic" have to say about that? :P


And to those of you abusing Starforce over this incident... Not that I'm supporting them or anything, but you can't blame them. It's the action of one moronic forum administrator, so you can't place the blame on the company as a whole. It's not as if they hold a general meeting before every post .

[dede]

Probably in next time the autor of this scandalous post will loose the job by starfo*ces and appear as a new group on the scene. lol, i don't need trojans on my computer.

Many poeple die daily, nobody's perfekt.

[Joe Forster/STA]

@Anti669: Perhaps, not all people can afford to buy a thousand dollar PC. Also, perhaps, some people can barely afford to buy a multi-hundred dollar PC and, when they're done, they're left with no more money to buy software.

I'm not saying piracy is good. I'm not saying that poor people shouldn't be allowed to buy PC. And I'm not saying that having poor people around, at the beginning of the era of space travel, is good either. I'm just saying this problem is "grey" rather than "black & white"...

[Jedimaster Player]

If a Game has Copy Protection I would prefer not to Buy it, but its good to have Copy Protection on your Games to Stop Casual Copying.

But everyone should have the Write to make a Backup Copy & they should not Try to make Copy Protected Games that are impossible to Copy. Also you should not need to use other Applications to make a Copy work eg DaimonTools.

They should explain to to the Purchaser on how they can make a Backup of there copy, or place a Card Explaining how to in the Box, after all there not Cheap to buy...

I wonder how they would go if you had to Contact the Game Maker to get your Retail Key that you just Bought at the Shop ? Meaning every Key that would get sent to the Buyer's would be on Record & if that Key gets Black listed then they would no who gave the Key out because it would be on Record... I guess you can call it Registering your Game in a Different way.

[Jedimaster Player]

Originally Posted by Anti669

If you can afford a $1000 PC, then you can afford a $50 game. That simple.
If you own a PC which can run F.E.A.R., then chances are you're not too poor to buy it.
What does your "Higher Logic" have to say about that? :P


And to those of you abusing Starforce over this incident... Not that I'm supporting them or anything, but you can't blame them. It's the action of one moronic forum administrator, so you can't place the blame on the company as a whole. It's not as if they hold a general meeting before every post .

You might buy a game once a Month or Maybe 2 @ $180 x2 I would average 1 Game every 5 Months Unless there is some good Tittles out, but then again once in a while I might buy 3 in 1 hit Labuying the other 2 games but how many Computers are going to buy @ $900 ? you would be dumb & or Rich to Buy a new PC every 6 to 8 Months

I buy a new PC (CPU, Motherboard, Ram & a Video Card) every 4 Year's & thats usually because I need to as to keep upto date with the New Game Releases... Also Update hard drives when needed to...