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Why? What would happen, according to you? 64/32bit xtool have absolutely no relation to 64/32bit games. Only libraries used in xtool, hence why crilayla was dropped.
I think people with 32-bit operating systems use 32-bit versions of games. If they want to back up their games, they must use the 32-bit compression tool. Yes, xtool's architecture (32 or 64) is for the operating system only and not for the game.
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Why? What would happen, according to you? 64/32bit xtool have absolutely no relation to 64/32bit games. Only libraries used in xtool, hence why crilayla was dropped.
f you create a compressed Data.bin file using 64-bit XTool we will not have to extract (install) on 32-bit systems.

The question was addressed to Razor12911. Most of the time other users are commenting and giving their answers and it turns out that the question post is left behind and the user who was asked many times ends up not seeing the question.
Please, other users, avoid answering questions that have a username mentioned, so it is easier to be answered. Thanks.
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@Razor12911, is there any change from XTool 2020 to have a 32 bit version too?
Perhaps in the thin version l of the XTool 2020, it would be great.
Most games require 64-bit systems, but there are still some games that support 32-bit.
So if there is only 64-bit XTool it would not be recommended to compress this type of games using it, having to choose to use the old XTool.
Also if the user has a 32-bit system installed he will not be able to use Xtool, even if it is for a game that will be installed on another system in the future.
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I don't know if I said it here on the forum or to someone who asked for 32-bit version of xtool. I stopped shipping 32-bit xtool because there are certain mistakes that some people make when they use xtool. An example is when they use oodle/lz4. The library you use must be compiled from the same source code, this you must make sure (if the 64-bit dll of lz4 is v191, make sure the 32-bit dll is also v191). So what happens is people use 64-bit version of the library and then ship the 32-bit version of xtool along with different libraries making xtool to cause CRC errors because the libraries didn't come from the same source. 32-bit is available on request but it will be the users fault if they have issues with it. What you also must remember is xtool ships with xdelta, some streams cannot be restored so it tries to salvage a few streams but if there is a mismatch in the data caused by different dll, it causes xtool/xdelta to return errors.

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The question was addressed to Razor12911. Most of the time other users are commenting and giving their answers and it turns out that the question post is left behind and the user who was asked many times ends up not seeing the question.
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Relax I backtrack posts when I return and answer all of them when I have time, I did say that I spend less time here and sometimes what happens is if a question is directed at someone, if they are not around and other people don't step in, it still falls behind and the question is still never seen (especially with threads). So I think he did what was best by giving a response right away best he can according to his knowledge.

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I don't know if I said it here on the forum or to someone who asked for 32-bit version of xtool. I stopped shipping 32-bit xtool because there are certain mistakes that some people make when they use xtool. An example is when they use oodle/lz4. The library you use must be compiled from the same source code, this you must make sure (if the 64-bit dll of lz4 is v191, make sure the 32-bit dll is also v191). So what happens is people use 64-bit version of the library and then ship the 32-bit version of xtool along with different libraries making xtool to cause CRC errors because the libraries didn't come from the same source. 32-bit is available on request but it will be the users fault if they have issues with it. What you also must remember is xtool ships with xdelta, some streams cannot be restored so it tries to salvage a few streams but if there is a mismatch in the data caused by different dll, it causes xtool/xdelta to return errors.



Relax I backtrack posts when I return and answer all of them when I have time, I did say that I spend less time here and sometimes what happens is if a question is directed at someone, if they are not around and other people don't step in, it still falls behind and the question is still never seen (especially with threads). So I think he did what was best by giving a response right away best he can according to his knowledge.
Thanks for the quick response.

If I understand correctly, users compress a game with a library version and try to extract it with another.
But can't this happen with only the 64-bit version of XTool (Compressing with XTool X and trying to extract with XTool version Y)?
You always share the libraries together with XTool, so you should logically use them to decompress.

My idea was to update XTool on CIU so I decided to ask.
Now in CIU the libraries and decompressors are no longer included in the setup.exe, being added when the game is deleted in an external file, thus avoiding a bit of using different versions of the DLL and exes for extraction.

You said always go back on the posts and respond.
You ciu this question referring to ue4dt in the post HERE.

Can I have specific plug-in files for a game like "oo2ext_7_win64.dll / cp2077.ini" inside the XTool folder when using other methods?
If I want to include several plugins (specific files needed for a particular game) I can put them all in a folder with XTool and in the files for decompression do not include these files, or they must also be together in the extraction, even if it is specific to another method ? Of course, if the libraries in the "Libraries" folder shared with XTool exist alongside XTool in compression, must be together in decompression.
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Thanks for the quick response.

If I understand correctly, users compress a game with a library version and try to extract it with another.
But can't this happen with only the 64-bit version of XTool (Compressing with XTool X and trying to extract with XTool version Y)?
You always share the libraries together with XTool, so you should logically use them to decompress.
No you don't understand. The libraries have versions of their own. What I am saying is, if you used 64-bit version of xtool.exe and liblz4.dll when encoding. Repackers and other users have that thing of putting xtool.exe (x86) this is not a problem since xtool x86 and x64 are usually compatible with each other, the problem is then the liblz4.dll, users just look for any x86 liblz4.dll just because they want it to work with xtool.exe x86 even when liblz4.dll x86 and liblz4.dll are not the same version. Almost each version of liblz4.dll produces a different result when its used which causes crc errors for xtool.

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You said always go back on the posts and respond.
You ciu this question referring to ue4dt in the post HERE.
This is user error, someone tried to help you solve this issue in the next post.
https://www.fileforums.com/showpost....2&postcount=77
therefore I didn't intervene.
-mue4dt:-m1:-k0x115EE4F8C625C792F37A503308048E79726E512F0BF8D2A D7C4C87BC5947CBA7+xzlib+srep:m3f+4x4:lzma+diskspan :4420mb:4470mb
the problem here is simple, you added -mue4dt:-m1:-k0x...

I don't know if that was the issue or with the program itself.

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Can I have specific plug-in files for a game like "oo2ext_7_win64.dll / cp2077.ini" inside the XTool folder when using other methods?
If I want to include several plugins (specific files needed for a particular game) I can put them all in a folder with XTool and in the files for decompression do not include these files, or they must also be together in the extraction, even if it is specific to another method ? Of course, if the libraries in the "Libraries" folder shared with XTool exist alongside XTool in compression, must be together in decompression.
not sure if I follow but you can probably do that, add several plugins. Even if they are not inuse. Or tell users to copy and paste the plugin info (ini) to a static file that you will use.
For example you can just make a custom configuration file, like extmethod.ini in your tools or CIU.
If a user wanted to use a certain plugin, instead of copying cp2077.ini, they can just copy its contents to extmethod.ini. this is also allowed. You can put in as many methods in there as you want but they must follow the standard ini section. [Stream1] ... [Stream2]... and etc. These configuration files as I mentioned are not required for decoding.

Remember, placing oo2ext_7_win64.dll as an example. This means xtool will use that library for everything oodle related so if your question was, can you make a folder which xtool will read cp2077 where there will be (oo2ext_7_win64.dll and cp2077.ini) and another game tc2 which uses (oo2ext_5_win64.dll and tc2.ini), xtool will use oo2ext_5_win64.dll for all of them.

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No you don't understand. The libraries have versions of their own. What I am saying is, if you used 64-bit version of xtool.exe and liblz4.dll when encoding. Repackers and other users have that thing of putting xtool.exe (x86) this is not a problem since xtool x86 and x64 are usually compatible with each other, the problem is then the liblz4.dll, users just look for any x86 liblz4.dll just because they want it to work with xtool.exe x86 even when liblz4.dll x86 and liblz4.dll are not the same version. Almost each version of liblz4.dll produces a different result when its used which causes crc errors for xtool.
But you usually share the libraries with XTool.
So if any user is going to replace Xtool with XTool x86 they must also replace the libraries with the libraries that come with XTool x86 (In the file you shared from xtool x86).
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the problem here is simple, you added -mue4dt:-m1:-k0x...
I cannot include "-" in the parameter.
So that must be the mistake. I'll check it out and send it to KaktoR to test it, but I think that's what happened. Thanks!
I did not pay attention to the user's Masquerade response. If he had highlighted the "-" he would have noticed.
It's even generating the wrong method on the DiskSpan_GUI that I created...


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not sure if I follow but you can probably do that, add several plugins. Even if they are not inuse. Or tell users to copy and paste the plugin info (ini) to a static file that you will use.
For example you can just make a custom configuration file, like extmethod.ini in your tools or CIU.
If a user wanted to use a certain plugin, instead of copying cp2077.ini, they can just copy its contents to extmethod.ini. this is also allowed. You can put in as many methods in there as you want but they must follow the standard ini section. [Stream1] ... [Stream2]... and etc. These configuration files as I mentioned are not required for decoding.

Remember, placing oo2ext_7_win64.dll as an example. This means xtool will use that library for everything oodle related so if your question was, can you make a folder which xtool will read cp2077 where there will be (oo2ext_7_win64.dll and cp2077.ini) and another game tc2 which uses (oo2ext_5_win64.dll and tc2.ini), xtool will use oo2ext_5_win64.dll for all of them.
So the ideal would be to put just XTool and the common libraries, and put the plugins in separate folders and create copies of these plugins to the XTool folder when initializing the compression and deleting after completion.

Perhaps a configuration file with a path for additional plugins would be a idea.
Example: Use an XTool.ini file and place keys such as Path1=Plugin1, Path2=Plugin2, etc.
When starting XTool, not only load libraries and files that are in the XTool path, but also check and load the subfolders with those paths.
The scan of the keys would have to be checked as long as the key Path#= exists, and not if it is empty because to disable a plugin it would only be necessary to pass an empty value to key path#=. This is only an idea if it doesn't hinder the performance of XTool.

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The libraries have versions of their own. What I am saying is, if you used 64-bit version of xtool.exe and liblz4.dll when encoding. Repackers and other users have that thing of putting xtool.exe (x86) this is not a problem since xtool x86 and x64 are usually compatible with each other, the problem is then the liblz4.dll, users just look for any x86 liblz4.dll just because they want it to work with xtool.exe x86 even when liblz4.dll x86 and liblz4.dll are not the same version. Almost each version of liblz4.dll produces a different result when its used which causes crc errors for xtool.
Razor12911, Thank you for the information.
It's very important to know because I've faced this situation before. It took a long time to find the cause of the CRC error. But I failed.
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Razor12911, seems like you broke xtool:kraken with latest version.
I only tested on Death Stranding (of course, decrypted with dst)...you can easily test it yourself with your own dst_r1 package.
Use your original pack.bat -> data.arc is inflated (using oo2reck).
Use xtool_2011_r1 xtool.exe with xtool:kraken -> data.arc is inflated.
Use xtool_2012_r1 xtool.exe with xtool:kraken -> data.arc is NOT inflated.

P.S. Why am I using xtool for this when everybody is using oo2reck? Because xtool:kraken decompress FASTER than oo2reck. I don't care if compression is longer (and it is), decompression speed is more important for me.

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I guess I have the same. kraken does not work with latest version (and I thought I was just to dumb ).
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Is there a progress update on Watch Dogs precompressor, or if not, some guidance on how to write an xtool config in order to create one?
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Update available

Changes

- added library support
- added compress, decompress, encrypt, decrypt, hash, delta functions (used by library)
- added lzo codec placeholders
- fixed oodle bug
- fixed lz4 bug
- removed libdunia codec

@infovs, KaktoR
Should be fixed now

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This is the final major update of xtool, this is a tiresome project and from now onwards it will only be getting minor updates and bug fixes. If you're worried about support for games released in future which xtool has no support of, I have added 3 ways of adding plugins to xtool and that's either by a database, a configuration or a plugin that is written in Delphi or C++ (a well written documentation that explains how these work is underway).

I removed libdunia because this codec is not suppose to be part of xtool, I added it become some scene groups were on the roll in bypassing Denuvo so I thought they have this one in the bag but turns out people have to wait a little longer which gave me time to finish library support. Library support is basically dlls written to add additional support to xtool without updating the main project. Think of it like the CLS of Xtool so be sure to check Plugins thread for the separate plugin.

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oodle is fixed, thanks Merry christmas to you too!

Code:
from rdr2

Compressed 1 file, 1,018,142,190 => 2,447,518,046 bytes. Ratio 240.39%
Compression time: cpu 0.88 sec/real 111.78 sec = 1%. Speed 9.11 mB/s
All OK

Extracted 1 file, 2,447,518,046 => 1,018,142,190 bytes. Ratio 240.39%
Extraction time: cpu 0.75 sec/real 91.56 sec = 1%. Speed 11.12 mB/s
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I am inflating Cyberpunk 2077 with cp2077 plugin. All *.archive tarred through groups in FA. I am at 32gb in tmp file right now and total of all archives is 60gb so I am still only half the size of original compressed data. This is after 6h10min. In FA gui it says speed is at 0.11mb/s. Is this supposed to be this slow? -t100p and 4 core 4690k 4.2ghz

PS(first ~27gb or so went much quicker than is now, but it is working and did not hanged)

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@elit: No it's not supposed to be that long.

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Overall input size: 59.64 GB
Overall output size: 125.20 GB
Overall conversion time: 01:23:28
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Exactly! But.. I doubt I am doing anything wrong, I mean:
Code:
-mcustom6/$gamelz=xtool:mcp2077+srp64+xlzma:lc8
*.archive = $gamelz group.
So *.archive = FA -mxtool:mcp2077+srp64+xlzma:lc8
or xtool precomp -t100p -mcp2077 to be precise
Code:
[External compressor:xtool]
header = 0
packcmd = _EC\xtool\xtool precomp -t100p {options} - - <stdin> <stdout> 
 unpackcmd = _EC\xtool\xtool decode -t100p - - <stdin> <stdout>
Code:
srp64          = srep64:m3f:c256:mem8g:m64k:b16m:a2
procdefault    = srp64+xlzma:lc8
Code:
-mcustom6/$gamelz=xtool:mcp2077+procdefault
Anyone?(PS its latest 2012r2)
EDIT(restarted without t100p, but I don't think that's it: xtool.png
How you guys getting ~10mb/s is beyond me, are you tarring or doing individual files? As it may matter..)
EDIT2(speed down to 0.6mb/s, estimation ~22h+ and slowing down. Really, this ain't right but tool appear to be working correct not hanging! Can anyone try: latest xtool version with cp2077 plugin and on tarred archives through FA not individual files? I am sure there is something wrong in one of those variables.)
PS(I forgot to note that game is gog with 1.06 update, that means 9gb 1.05 was also applied, maybe it changed oodle structure? I will postpone compression until solution/cause is clear.)

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