Hi...Does anybody know how to copy new Securom and Safedisc 2 protected cds?

Hi all....I have tried to copy some games that use the new Securom and Safedisc 2 protections with no good results....so anybody knows how?
I have used Clone cd with this options enabled:
- read subchannel data from data tracks
- read subchannel data from audio tracks
I have also used blind read and then Cdrwin.....but nothing!
Thanks in advance.