Splinter Cell PAL (aus) FADE Protection??????

pottzman · #1 04-04-2003, 07:19

hello everyone : -) ....... Just a question for all. My backups of
Splinter cell seem to play OK until it asks you to save after each
level. When saving is complete the game goes blank and then
"Please insert a playstation2 disc appears". After a reset and reload of the game I just saved I can play the next level but when it saves at the end of each level the same thing happens....... my question is is this game protected with "FADE"
and if YES does anyone know how to patch it. All my other backups play perfectly

PS2 V3900R
Magic 3.1 chip
Prassi PrimoDVD method

bighap · #2 04-04-2003, 09:29

This isn't a protection of any type. Sounds more like a bad burn. You might want to try reburning and maybe on a different brand of media too.

pottzman · #3 04-04-2003, 16:04

I have tried a couple of times with different media burnt at 1X and 2X - same thing

Thanks anyway.

ottoman · #4 04-04-2003, 16:29

fade protection only applies on dvd to cd rip. It does not apply on dvd to dvd copying. If u burning a dvd-r then it ain't fade protection.

BG · #5 04-04-2003, 17:23

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Originally posted by pottzman
I have tried a couple of times with different media burnt at 1X and 2X - same thing

Thanks anyway.

You haven't said what brand of media you are using.....

Traxdata, Ritek, ????

pottzman · #6 04-04-2003, 18:10

Have used "cheapo unbranded", "Imation", and even the
pioneer DVD-R and Pioneer DVD-RW that came with my burner
which is DVR-A05 (FW 1.30-RPC-1)) if this helps any

ottoman · #7 05-04-2003, 14:10

There is a reason why people who have burned before recomend certain brands, Its because they work and cheap brands don't.

You'll ave yourself a lot of money by simply taking advice and using dvd-r with ritek dye.

Regards

Gurm · #8 07-04-2003, 07:56

As far as I'm concerned, this so-called "FADE" protection is either urban legend or nowhere near as good as it purports to be.

I haven't seen it at all personally (and I've seen a LOT of games/apps go by), and regardless... protection cannot do what FADE claims to do.

- Gurm

derek in aus · #9 08-04-2003, 03:07

I din have any probs with Splinter cell but had same sort of probs with the getaway it's most likely bad media bad burn (and don't use labels they turn working games into frizby's)

pottzman · #10 08-04-2003, 03:23

thankx derek!!!! at least someone else has experienced the same thing and I'm not going crazy : -)

ottoman · #11 08-04-2003, 04:58

Everyone experienced it at one time or another.

The only brands od dvd nedia u should use with ps2 are any that use ritek dark purple dye on them, Traxdata,DVDMaster and Ritek dvd-r.

If u take a chance with other media then don't be suprised when u get problems.

The getaway and splinter cell are very laser demanding game and therefore needs to be burned onto top quality media or you'll get problems.

U didn't mention what version ps2 u have. If it is a version 3 or 4 then u could come across problems anyway as the lasers aren't so good as in versions 5 to 8.

Regards

BG · #12 08-04-2003, 17:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Gurm
protection cannot do what FADE claims to do.

- Gurm

Take Mike Tysons Boxing and rip it to cd-r....

Then watch what FADE protection does......

It works.... But only on RIPS....

Gurm · #13 08-04-2003, 19:20

Well duh, when you rip something...

But on the other hand I've heard lots of fun rumors about FADE. How it can keep track of how many times you run something, and get progressively worse.

That just CANNOT HAPPEN without saving something to the memory card.

I've heard lots of OTHER rumors about what it can do which are even MORE patently absurd. Starts to sound like the Good Times virus.

ROFL.

- Gurm

BG · #14 08-04-2003, 20:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Gurm
Well duh, when you rip something...

So I'm sure that you are aware that fade ONLY affects RIPS......

ottoman · #15 09-04-2003, 04:36

Fade protection works on dates.

If u do a one to one copy of a dvd-r u copy all files including the dates that they were created.

If u rip a game ur PC then adds the last date that u messed around with the file and when u run the game it reads the dates of the files compared to what they should be and if wrong then protection kicks in. ( This is what I was told by someone claiming to be knowledgeable anyway!)

Also if it reads the ps2 internal time and date then theoretically it is possible that it would get worse and worse the longer u use it but don't quote me on it!

So theoretically it should be possible to fool fade protection by simply setting your PC to the correct time and date before ripping the game from dvd to cdr.

And thats MY TEN CENTS

Regards