Safedisk 2.80.010 - Page 2

themis_t · #1 27-09-2002, 14:21

oh yes....

PowerTiger · #2 28-09-2002, 06:06

Hi @ all!

It seems, SafeDisc is an easy protection.
In the past I read much about such of these protections.
Now ... and in the future

i'm interessted, how to bite SafeDisc.

The problem: How to start?

In the past I tryed to "crack" some little nag screens and key-prompts. With the result of blue screens and in some cases: missing nag screens!

There was more luck than understanding!

But CD protection is not the same as nag screens or key-prompt, isn't it?

And an other question: Why is Safe-Disc from version to version different? Other routines?

Thnx ...

PowerTiger

Dr Apocalypse · #3 28-09-2002, 08:23

I think you're trying to run before you can walk. You need a good understanding (or at least an idea) of ASM, Windows API's and the PE file structure first

Softice is probably a must as well!

There are some good tut's on Safedisc as well, so you may be lucky and be able to understand them.

THEN you can think about Safedisc

Or you could just 'reverse' bOOl's cleaner and cheat

The reason there are differing versions is simply to stay one step ahead of the crackers. A new version will theoretically need more time to 'crack', but we all know that's a load of s**t as they usually get cracked the same day

DrA.

PowerTiger · #4 28-09-2002, 09:03

*smile* I know, I'm a newbe about that.

I have already some knowlege about Windows API and assembler-language (the basic).

I installed SoftIce last year just for fun (Try-And-Error-Technique

). I notice, that SoftIce is a powerfull tool - not only for cleaning Apps and Games from any nag screen and so on.

But SoftIce was "to big" for learning. I hadn't a reason to use it. I always need a reason for learning. It is the same in school. Like Math: For what I need this f***** equation?

OK ... SoftIce is needed for professional cracking. But I need a goal - like SafeDisc!

But back to topic! If you have some "Start-Here"-Informations, let me know it, please.

Thnx, ...

PowerTiger

Dr Apocalypse · #5 28-09-2002, 12:32

Try Krobar's tutorial collection:

h**p://zor.org/krobar/

there's quite a few Safedisc tut's.

And I know what ya mean about equations, why the f*ck do I need to know: 2x + 1b = 0? Transpose my ar*e

DrA.

bOOls eYe · #6 29-09-2002, 02:16

you can also study the source code of r!sc's sd 2.40.10 unwrapper. that's where i started

Dr Apocalypse · #7 29-09-2002, 05:18

Hmm... overlooked that option, 'The Bleedin Obvious' is not my speciality it seems

Well pointed out bOOl's

DrA.

emptyeighty · #8 29-09-2002, 07:06

Quote:

"I wonder why Safedisc isn't open source"

They might actually get a good protection if they did that for a while...

PowerTiger · #9 29-09-2002, 08:15

Uuuuu ... the first impression of your link: Much informations!
Thnx Dr. Apocalypse and b00ls eYe!

And thnx for your sympathy with me about Math!

About open source: Did they "steel" source-code from free programmers? First made open for bug-fixing and upgrading and then close when it is "perfect" and make money with it!

Cyn · #10 30-09-2002, 12:11

Boolseye do you need files from a SafeDisc v2.80.010 game? If so let me know what I have to send aswell as which compressions program to use and the parameters for the size of each archive....I have Sims Unleashed and it sports the above SafeDisc, which I cannot backup with my LiteOn 40125s and CloneCD or BlindWrite.

bOOls eYe · #11 01-10-2002, 05:48

yeah, the sd 2.80 cd-check became better... seems they can detect the difference between an original cd and a clone.

i don't need any 2.80 files. i have 5 exe's protected with that version, that's enough for now.
thanks anyway.

gh0sth@cker · #12 01-10-2002, 08:06

Quote:

Originally posted by bOOls eYe
yeah, the sd 2.80 cd-check became better... seems they can detect the difference between an original cd and a clone.

Any details on this? What about two-sheep burners - are they beaten?

Cyn · #13 01-10-2002, 09:59

I think so I've got a Liteon 40125s and cannot create a working backup with CloneCD or BlindWrite. And I've always have been able to create a working backup with CloneCD

gh0sth@cker · #14 01-10-2002, 10:38

I've read that most people using Clone CD weren't able to make a copy, but by using other software such as Blindwrite or Disk Jugglar many had success.

Cyn · #15 01-10-2002, 14:51

I also tried DiscJuggler 3.5 and Blindwrite (check sig) and then a moderator from CDFreaks suggested I try DiscDump and it's front end and that worked!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=54912

That's the link to the thread and if you are too lazy I'll quote the success.....

"Philamber by following your directions, using DiscDump and it's FrontEnd I read Sims Unleashed with the LiteOn Writer (setting a max speed of 8x read) also selecting the SafeDisc option in the frontend and burned it at 8x aswell using Nero 5.5.9.9. I clicked on the File menu, then selecting Burn Image and selecting the Cue Sheet generated by Disc Dump, then selecting DAO/96.

So where 2 Pay Programs failed, a FREE program succeeded. VERY impressive I must say.....I hope Disc Dump gets revised if and when it needs to.

Also BlindWrite didn't create totally create a coaster, it just didn't create a correct backup just like CloneCD, the files are there and the backup will install....it just won't RUN off the backup, which is what should happen. "

Also this thread on CDFreaks contains more info on using Disc Dump and other programs to read and write your image

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=50778